Dear Mukul,

Thanks a lot for addressing my comments in 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/oDgVmZgZpcxuPcKnjkMZzLLcEGo/. I 
reviewed. All perfect thanks.

Regarding my comments in 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/s55XlMStBXpq0BYTAFubg9aOdL8/, which 
received feedback from 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/Pmt5tf9vyw2av_ULnXJcbuimWuM/
and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/LjgjpzEsaeCe_gYm9QunMTkEIpg/, I 
suggest to add another stats counter.

I hope we gather more feedback from the mailing list which approach would be 
best. My favorite is:

How many prefixes until upper bound is being reached

Best wishes
Thomas

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Hi All

All comments have been addressed and the new doc has been posted. Feel free to 
review and provide comments.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-02

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I am looking for early code point assignment. Pls help in the assignment.

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Let me know if you want to combine your work with my draft.

Thanks
Mukul



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Hi Thomas

All good points and I appreciate your feedback. I will update the doc with your 
comment.

Jinming, I think we should connect to combine both docs in one.

Thanks
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Dear Mukul and Jinming,



I have reviewed both documents and have a few comments. Speaking as a network 
operator, first of all I believe as previous stated it is very much valued that 
you intend not only to update existing BMP statistics but also much needed new 
statistics. Thank you very much for this. I agree that it would be helpful if 
both documents could be merged into 1 before the working group adoption.





https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-01#section-2.1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-01*section-2.1__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkYnKo81H$>



TBD1, TBD2, TBD3 and TBD4: I appreciate that you are changing from counter to 
gauge, having statistics for pre and post policy in adj-rib as a summary for 
all address families and for each address family. I value this granularity.

TBD5, TBD6 and TBD11: This gives visibility in how many routes have been 
accepted or dropped by the route policy. I value that you changed from counter 
to gauge since an operator is typically not interested in the route event 
count, they are interested in the amount of routes within the rib.

TBD7: The term "active route" is not well defined to my understanding. I 
suggest to align to 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cppy-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv-12#section-2.1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cppy-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv-12*section-2.1__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkcg-b13N$>
 and define a gauge for primary and backup path.

TBD8: I suggest to use the term " Suppressed" instead of "Dampened" and make a 
reference to 
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2439#section-2.2<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2439*section-2.2__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkfakWsBH$>
 to be aligned with 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv-01#section-2.1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv-01*section-2.1__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkbEH5Zx1$>

TBD9. I suggest to be more specific with the reference to 
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4724.html#section-4.1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4724.html*section-4.1__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkdGiG8Lm$>
 to be aligned with 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv-01#section-2.1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv-01*section-2.1__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkbEH5Zx1$>

TBD10: I suggest to reference 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9494#section-4.3<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9494*section-4.3__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkcLEzk06$>.


https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00#section-3<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00*section-3__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkb4rAmoJ$>

I share the comments from Jeff on TBD5 and TBD6 in 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00#section-3.1.2<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00*section-3.1.2__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkTHhYax2$>.
 A reference to the specific section of  
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4271<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4271__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkTVAeTza$>
 describing this behavior is needed.

I share the comments from Jeff on TBD3 and TBD4 in 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00#section-3.1.1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00*section-3.1.1__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkX-ZkXSm$>
 since this is vendor specific. Therefore I object.  I suggest to use an 
enterprise specific TLV instead as described 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit-05#section-3.3<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit-05*section-3.3__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkVBHnq_5$>

Regarding TBD1 and TBD2. I believe the description is ambiguous. Based on my 
feedback from 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/s55XlMStBXpq0BYTAFubg9aOdL8/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/s55XlMStBXpq0BYTAFubg9aOdL8/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!F4OnvDrVEmFPBIPEuhc5-zGQRKko8qfQMbODK5PoaQapCcQyidwbEK7IlD5ngucdbLlwVqGSyNz9NOkROk9fkQQLDtrK$>
 I suggest the following:


   * Stat Type = TBD1: (64-bit Gauge) How many routes left until configured

   prefix limit threshold as defined in Section 6.7 of RFC 4271 is reached.

   This value increases or decreases based when prefix limit threshold is

   being changed.



   * Stat Type = TBD2: (64-bit Gauge) How many routes in per-AFI/SAFI left

   until configured prefix limit threshold as defined in Section 6.7 of

   RFC 4271 is reached. This value increases or decreases based when prefix

   limit threshold is being changed. The value is structured as: 2-byte

   Address Family Identifier (AFI), 1-byte Subsequent Address Family

   Identifier (SAFI), followed by a 64-bit Gauge.

Best wishes
Thomas

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