Paolo,

> On Apr 2, 2025, at 1:42 PM, Paolo Lucente <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for catching this & your proposal for the top-most bit being the FCFS 
> one is super sensible - i'll edit the document accordingly.
> 
> One remaining question: does in your opinion FCFS make sense in conjunction 
> with e-bit? Or would e-bit only make sense with Standards Action? I am myself 
> tending for the latter given the interesting conversation you and Thomas were 
> having: both e-bit and FCFS are mechanisms to lower the bar, one going 
> private-first, the other going public-first -- probably the intersection of 
> the two is ornamental and we could skip it.

My thinking on the longer solution is not crystal clear.  Mostly this was 
flagging we had a bad interaction that lead to unexpected behavior.

The overall motivation for both the FCFS and the ebit (IMO) is fast assignment. 
 FCFS as a change made this incredibly easy.

The e-bit proposal has the additional property outside of a FCFS or standards 
assigned code point of "private management".  Basically, once you have a code 
point where the contents are an e-bit, you can do largely what you like without 
IETF coordination.  What does this give us?

That internal use case is a challenge for any code point you may want to be 
multi-vendor.  Picking an example, would Cisco be wanting to implement a 
counter from the Juniper PEN space?  

Generally when we want code points to be multi-vendor, this is where the 
benefit of even light-weight IETF process is helpful.  We see this for the 
statistics draft.  The code points were assigned "fast" (although not as fast 
as the coders originally wanted), and the semantics of them iterated in a few 
cases.

If the code points had started in PEN space where change control is outside of 
what IETF provides, what's going to be the comfort of various vendors 
implementing it?  Operators using it?

I think with easy and plentiful FCFS that PEN as a general mechanism is less 
needed.

It might be helpful to hear what people think the use cases for PEN code points 
will enable different than what we now have.  That will give us a sense about 
what encoding requirements we may want.

-- Jeff

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