Hi all,

Forwarding now that the call for adoption for bmp-over-quic is closed, fwiw.

If you have any relevant item for consideration like the one raised by Claudio, 
feel free to get in touch with Per.

Cheers,
Med

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Envoyé : jeudi 2 avril 2026 17:34
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List <[email protected]>; Nmop <[email protected]>; IETF IPPM WG ([email protected]) 
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Cc : Per Andersson <[email protected]>
Objet : [NMOP] foo-over-QUIC Operational Motivations & Challenges

Hi all

Many proposals (*) are being promoted in several IETF WGs to port protocols 
widely used in operator networks to be transported over QUIC. There are several 
technical arguments that motivate such extensions, however, porting protocols 
used within operator networks to support QUIC would have some impacts on fault 
isolation, troubleshooting, etc. Because of the lack of the visibility on the 
transport headers, providing feature parity may be challenging without tools 
upgrade and also logistic (e.g., synchronize keys to decode messages, etc.).

There is a need to (1) have a common understanding of the operational benefits, 
(2) understand the underlying challenges that can be inherited especially when 
the connection endpoints are not adjacent to each others, and (3) identify 
deployment incentives especially when there are alternate mechanisms to achieve 
similar objectives (TLS, etc.), (4) identify whether there are specific missing 
QUIC features that would ease use in operators network , and (5) explore 
whether there is common operational guidance that can inform most of these 
extensions (and similar).

Per (cced) kindly accepted to coordinate and lead the discussion on this topic. 
Per will be presenting the outcome during IETF#126. Many thanks Per!

This is thus a call for inputs and feedback on this topic. Feel free to use 
this thread, get in touch with Per, or fill PRs/Issues using 
https://github.com/IETF-OPS-AD/foo-over-QUIC-Operational-Considerations.

Thank you

Cheers,
Med

(*)

  *   
draft-ietf-netconf-over-quic<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netconf-over-quic/>:
 NETCONF over QUIC
  *   
draft-liu-grow-bmp-over-quic<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-grow-bmp-over-quic/>:
 Using BMP over QUIC connection
  *   
draft-liu-sidrops-rpki-rtr-over-quic<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-sidrops-rpki-rtr-over-quic/>:
 RPKI to Router Protocol over QUIC
  *   
draft-llg-opsawg-ipfix-over-quic<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-llg-opsawg-ipfix-over-quic/>:
 IPFIX Protocol over QUIC
  *   
draft-retana-idr-bgp-quic<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-retana-idr-bgp-quic/>:
 BGP over QUIC
  *   
draft-yl-radext-quic-transport<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yl-radext-quic-transport/>:
 RADIUS over QUIC
  *   
draft-yang-pce-pcep-over-quic<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yang-pce-pcep-over-quic/>:
 PCEP over QUIC
  *   
draft-cel-nfsv4-rpc-over-quicv1<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cel-nfsv4-rpc-over-quicv1/>:
 Remote Procedure Call over QUIC Version 1
  *   
draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic/>:
 Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Transport over QUIC


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