Hi Maria,

There is one more change your draft is bringing in ... could be not that
insignificant.

Today with dual v4/v6 IXP fabric each member (if peering to RS) establishes
two eBGP sessions IPv4 and IPv6.

What you are proposing is transition to a single session - unless you run
v4 & v6 over separate v6 sessions.

That would be clearly much more fragile as any session reset will
jeopardise the fun for both v4 and v6 reachable destinations.

I am not sure if this would be a good thing.

/* Maybe one day we will depart from session based BGP state bindings but
this moment does not seem to be happening in the near time. */

Cheers,
Robert


On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 10:21 AM Maria Matejka <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 09:35:20AM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote:
>
> That has been long rejected, see
> https://www.ripe.net/community/policies/proposals/2011-05/
>
> It is not possible to use unannounced or RFC1918 address space for IXP
> peering lans, as this breaks URPF and ICMP communication, and breaks the
> opportunity for debugging of connections over the Exchange for connected
> and non-connected networks due to the IX path missing from traceroutes, and
> peering routers not getting the ability to set reverse DNS.
>
> Well in respect to your proposal I bet there would be folks asking to use
> link-local v6 addresses as next hops:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-linklocal-capability/
>
> And how would that help to accomplish the above quoted reasons ?
>
> That is outside the scope of this document which clearly expects that the
> network is addressed by IPv6 GUA.
>
> Also if I have v4 only clients (yes large enterprises still use v4 and not
> even planning transition to v6) how would that debugging work over v6 only
> IXP fabric ?
>
> What about this draft which is in the process of finalization?
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-intarea-extended-icmp-nodeid/
>
> Also, literally this, i.e. large enterprises never transitioning to v6, is
> the major reason for specifying a transitional mechanism which would allow
> IXPs to get rid of IPv4 before all their customers do.
>
> –
> Maria Matejka (she/her) | BIRD Team Leader | CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o.
>
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