On 9 September 2011 16:03, Olav Vitters <o...@vitters.nl> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 01:19:45PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: >> On 8 September 2011 23:42, Olav Vitters <o...@vitters.nl> wrote: >> > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:38:02AM -0700, John Ralls wrote: >> >> And the fact that I'm here shows that I agree. Shawn was here (until >> >> Olaf kicked him off this morning) for the same reason. I'm quite >> > >> > Shawn kicked himself off. >> >> If you are so concerned about politeness and non-controversy of this >> list then kick Emmanuele too. Or are only members of Gnome foundation >> board allowed to be rude on this list? :p > > I don't really care about politeness or non-controversy. I more follow > the ideas of https://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct. > .. > > Regarding code of conduct: > I think it is unavoidable to have an "not so nice" email every once in a > while. Perhaps from someone well-known, perhaps from someone unknown. > What I find more important is not that one email, but the reaction to > that email. A general attitude to still be respectful and if you notice > some unacceptable behaviour, try to go for a solution which dampens it > instead of further aggravating (sending private emails, saying you're > getting the impression it seems to get personal, etc). > Give some ability for the other person to say "oh, I didn't mean it" / > "sorry".
I think exactly the part stated in the last sentence of the above is not preserved when somebody is kicked off the list when posting (first!) heated reply to a heated discussision which is something that is to be somewhat expected from time to time. .. > In this specific case: > I noticed Emanuelle apologized for the tone being interpreted as > attacking by the time I read the thread, so I consider it over. Didn't\ Still he did not really tone down his emails so he did not do much better than the person who was banned. > see the same for the other email, and didn't recognize the name at all, > high chance for things getting out of hand. He started the email with an apology which might be about as serious as Emmanuelle's given the tone of both emails. I don't see banning as an effective way if dealing with issues. People who mean ill will just re-subscribe under a different address, people who really don't will go away but that's usually not what you really want. I am subscribed to quite a few mailing list and this is the first time I saw such heavy-handed approach but it's your list and you are free to manage it as you see fit. Thanks Michal _______________________________________________ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list