On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 1:12 AM, Christian Schoenebeck < schoeneb...@linuxsampler.org> wrote:
> On Samstag, 16. Dezember 2017 12:05:03 CET Sébastien Wilmet wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:10:46AM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > I know this may sound harsh, but: If you want things to work > differently, > > > send patches. > > In theory. In practice you send patches and then you get a response like > "hmm, > not sure about that, I would like to have it differently", and that > without an > actual suggestion how to do that "differently". > > Like you said, if you want things differently, send your patches. But then > as > a patch sender you have the same expectation: you don't like the patch, > make a > better suggestion! You don't have a better suggestion or at least an > adequate > feedback? Ok, then apply the patch and simply add FIXME comment(s) at your > own > discretion and maybe one day somebody replaces it with a better solution. > > Just one example, gtk3 (yes 3, not even 4) is currently completely > unusable on > Mac, so I sent a patch to fix this: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791174 > > I know my patch is suboptimal, but to make this clear: it does not address > a > minor bug, this bug is a real show stopper on Mac, and this change is > purely > gtk internal. Of course it is not a clean solution, but there is no reason > to > simply apply this patch (at a bare minimum at least to the gtk3/stable > branch) > with a FIXME comment for now so that people on Mac can finally start using > gtk3 > at all. > I really have to agree. One of my bugs I raised in 2004 - which involves data loss - is still open. I submitted a patch ( which was difficult at the time - I only dabble in C when I absolutely have to ) which received very little feedback, and the bug has rotted since. I believe it exists in gtk+ versions 2 and 3, but I removed support for GtkComboBoxEntry widgets from all my code when porting to version 3 to avoid the issue entirely. "Send a patch" only goes so far. If patches don't get reviewed, or don't get sufficient feedback, and never get accepted, what's the point in sending patches? Dan
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