Yeah, I poked originally. See:
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156017#c3
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156017#c5
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156017#c6

Other people commented and submitted further patches after that. After
that, I just gave up. If you're looking for more volunteers, have a good
think about this.

Just recently another bug has been marked as a duplicate of this one. I get
the feeling if I just continue to ping the bug, or the list, people would
tell me to pull my head in because it's not scratching their itch or
whatever. I only brought it up in the context of someone else saying there
are issues getting patches reviewed and applied.

Regarding IRC - I've never used it because it doesn't save history, so I
have to keep an IRC client open 24/7 just to see people's responses - and
the people I'm waiting on are invariably in a different timezone. If you
have a viable product, submitting a bug to their bug tracking systems and
pinging a couple of times should be sufficient - and I note what's been
said above regarding there only being 1 full-time developer on the product.
Redirecting people to IRC doesn't make less work for anyone - it makes
more. Anyway, I did email the gtk-devel-list - from memory - though
admittedly it was 13 years ago, as you mentioned.

> Otherwise, you get exactly what you paid for.

Oh, I had that one coming. Thankyou.

Dan

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Emmanuele Bassi <eba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 17 December 2017 at 23:14, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Just one example, gtk3 (yes 3, not even 4) is currently completely
> >> unusable on
> >> Mac, so I sent a patch to fix this:
> >>
> >>         https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791174
> >>
> >> I know my patch is suboptimal, but to make this clear: it does not
> address
> >> a
> >> minor bug, this bug is a real show stopper on Mac, and this change is
> >> purely
> >> gtk internal. Of course it is not a clean solution, but there is no
> reason
> >> to
> >> simply apply this patch (at a bare minimum at least to the gtk3/stable
> >> branch)
> >> with a FIXME comment for now so that people on Mac can finally start
> using
> >> gtk3
> >> at all.
> >
> >
> > I really have to agree. One of my bugs I raised in 2004 - which involves
> > data loss - is still open. I submitted a patch ( which was difficult at
> the
> > time - I only dabble in C when I absolutely have to ) which received very
> > little feedback, and the bug has rotted since.
>
> Yes, everyone has their own pet bug where they submitted a patch and
> waited for feedback, as if GTK doesn't have ~3000 issues open at any
> given time, and a constant stream of bugmail.
>
> It would be *great* if we could review all incoming patches; sadly, we
> either do that, or we spend time actually developing the toolkit.
>
> Plus, if you have a patch lying in bugzilla for *13* years and you
> never bothered to actually poke people about it, then I don't think
> it'll ever get bumped up in terms of priority on the list of things to
> do.
>
> > "Send a patch" only goes so far. If patches don't get reviewed, or don't
> get
> > sufficient feedback, and never get accepted, what's the point in sending
> > patches?
>
> Your role doesn't terminate at sending a patch.
>
> It's your bug, your patch, and your responsibility for bringing it up
> to the people *volunteering* to work on GTK. If you have a patch that
> is languishing in Bugzilla, join the #gtk+ IRC channel on
> irc.gnome.org, or send an email to gtk-devel-list.
>
> Otherwise, you get exactly what you paid for.
>
> Ciao,
>  Emmanuele.
>
> --
> https://www.bassi.io
> [@] ebassi [@gmail.com]
>
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