Never said it was clear cut. But, if this is not an issue when
playing a cd in a cd player but the same files copied to the BS
changes how the album is played back, then its a bug. And as I
stated before, I dont believe I want an option to enable or disable
this. Rather, I want the BS to play albums as they are mastered.
When I had records, this was never an issue. Studuo recordings had
sepcrate tracks for each song. Live recordings were a single track
as they should be.
Why should it matter if the BS can tell the difference? It
should honor the original recording scheme.
Quote of the nanosecond. . .
"There are twelve months in the year.
That's kind of cool, because it makes
life a little more predictable."
--Brian Auten
Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour" <[email protected]>
To: "Robert C" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>; "EVAN REESE"
<[email protected]>; "GW-micro" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: When to insert pauses between recordings (was Re:
[GW-Booksense] New Voices, Features, and then Some)
>This is not as clear cut as you'd like it to be.
>
>Of course, live recordings and audiobooks sound better if there's no
>pause inserted between tracks.
>
>The problem is that the booksense doesn't know if you're listening to
>something that should have a pause inserted or not.
>
>How would you like it if your studio recordings, playlist entries, and
>anything with random playback, were smushed together with no pause?
>
>There are several ways to solve this, none of them perfect.
>
>* Leave things the way they are.
>* Change it so that there is never a gap between songs.
>* Come up with a global "insert pause between recordings" option.
>* Come of with a way of indicating which albums are gapless.
>
>I consider this a feature request, not the urgent bug this thread is
>trying to make it out to be.
>
>Jim
>
>On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:40:50PM -0700, Robert C wrote:
>> I have not looked at this too much, got my BS back from the shop
>>yesterday.
>>
>> I dont mind the pauses in the studio recordings as someone
>>pointed out.
>>
>> But for the live albums, I am guessing that the programming in
>>the BS is written to look for a certain amount of "quiet" and kicks
>>in a pause at that point.
>>
>> I dont believe this should be an option. I believe that the BS
>>should play such media as it was orginally recorded.
>>
>>Quote of the nanosecond. . .
>>How do you tell when you're out of invisible ink?
>>--Steven Wright
>>Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
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>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
>>To: "EVAN REESE" <[email protected]>; "GW-micro"
>><[email protected]>
>>Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:29 PM
>>Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] New Voices, Features, and then Some
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I am in full agreement with this.
>>>
>>>
>>>The Book Sense firmware for the player does not have the right to
>>>change how the recordings were made.
>>>There is no reason for it to insert a pause for any reason!
>>>This is one that is a real no brainer when it comes to listening
>>>to live performances and audio books ripped from CD audio books.
>>>
>>>This is one that the programmers at HIMS need to remove from the
>>>firmware, or, maybe put it into the playback options as a "add
>>>pause" or "do not add pause" option if they think it even needs to
>>>be there at all!
>>>
>>>Rod
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "EVAN REESE"
>>><[email protected]>
>>>To: "GW-micro" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:08 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] New Voices, Features, and then Some
>>>
>>>
>>>>The pause between tracks may be fine for many albums, however
>>>>there are many others that are intended to be heard
>>>>continuously, even though the tracks may have separate titles.
>>>>When I first mentioned this issue here, Raul mentioned Pink
>>>>Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon as a particular example where the
>>>>pause between tracks diminishes the listening experience. I can
>>>>think of many others, both in the classic rock genre as well as
>>>>in several subgenres of electronic music where the pause between
>>>>tracks negatively affects the listening experience. And, as I
>>>>said, many albums were not intended to be heard with pauses
>>>>between tracks; so the Book Sense should not be inserting one.
>>>>Whether there is a pause between tracks is something that should
>>>>be left up to the creators of the music. Any portable CD player
>>>>can play a CD the way it was intended to be heard, that is,
>>>>without pauses between tracks if that is the way its creator
>>>>wanted it to be heard. The Book Sense should function the same
>>>>way for albums that were ripped from CD's.
>>>>
>>>>Evan
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Weyler"
>>>><[email protected]>
>>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>>Cc: <[email protected]>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:23 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] New Voices, Features, and then Some
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I like the pause between tracks although it has been awhile
>>>>>since I have played any music so I can't remember how long the
>>>>>pause is. I do like a pause between tracks.
>>>>>Rita
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