NO! And I didn't ask for a date either. My suggestion is to get a more flexible
and dynamic up-to-date way of keeping track with the development on the web.
Scripting would be a way to do this.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
To: gwmicro
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Browse Mode - a suggestion/question
Hopefully now with the release of 7.1 GW will be working full speed ahead to
resolve browse mode issues. Don't think we will get a date out of GW for the
release of version 8 but if I were a betting man I would say around the end of
the year.
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: WE English mailing list
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:19 AM
Subject: Browse Mode - a suggestion/question
For quite a while now, Browse mode, has basically stayed the same. For all
of what I know, it might have been this way forever - I did get in touch with
WE in version 6.0.
To claim, there has been no updates to browse mode, would be totally out of
range. It's enough to just mention the placemarker functions, implemented with
WE7. Still these have been to some extend, what we could discribe as Minor
updates or changes.
For at least a year, GW staff has told us, there will be a major update, or
even a rebuild of the whole, browse mode - sometime... NO! This is no
complaining message, I just try to sum up, the facts, as far as my knowledge
goes. And I do understand the reason for the REBUILD of the Browse Mode, and
that there is nothing in stone yet. That is actually what all of this message
is all about...
The problem, as it is by date, and has been for all the past, is that Brose
Mode is a part of the basic WE code. This means, that ONLY GW staff has access
to it, and ONLY they can change it. They are few, and have limited resources.
They also have to make priorities when comes to what features to update, and
maintain. But the WEB, is a quite dynamic place. It changes often, and it does
so, OVER NIGHT. Go to your favorite webpage today, everything is fine, open it
tomorrow, and you are stuck - the webmaster had the joky idea in his head last
night, to change one tiny piece of code, and you are helplessly left behind.
You go to the WE mailing list, and sigh out your heart, and is told that
somewhere down the line, someone down the staff, will do something down the
code... And meanwhile? When we first were told that plans were for an update to
Browse Mode, last year, the web had this and that, that was inaccessible. If we
look one year, two years, or whatever ahead, to get the rebuild, the web will
have changed dramtically, and the whole process will have to be repeated.
OK, enough for the summing up. Here is my suggestion: Up till WE6.1, the
WE code made up the whole WE software, and that was what you got, and what you
had to stick to. From WE7, the software has become FAR more dynamic, by
entering into the scripting world. This gives us big opportunites, when comes
to keeping the software UP-TO-DATE, and running even under brand new
circumstances.
GW Staff:
Why not simply remove the browse Mode from the basic code, and make it all
into a script???
Scripting the Browse Mode, would give several conveniences. First of all,
not only GW staff would have access to it, meaning that if they don't have time
to update, others might get the chance to jump in and give a hand. Secondly,
the update would be far quicker and more easily done. Third, the users could
benefit from the updates, even if they don't have the money to run and buy a
newer version of WE, at least to some extend (most scripts can, for instance,
be run as well under WE7, WE7.01, and WE7.1). Fourth, scripting would open up
for features, that might not be possible, easily, to fit into the basic code.
How well would this way of doing things work? Well, I did use another
screen reader - back a few years ago - the German Blindows. They had done a
similar solution, having no browse mode implemented in the screen reader
itself, but bunddled it with a scripted software named WebFormator. The
scripted browse mode, simply kicked in, whenever IE was opened, just like the
Browse Mode of WE does. In practical, daily, use, the user might not even
notice the difference. But when comes to the frequency, and time needed, to get
out updates, everyone would benefit.
ALLRIGHT, you all might state - and I guess this is the first reply we will
get from staff members - but this will have to be in a later version of WE,
sometime down the years.... !!! NO !!!
Should be possible to get this done, already, with no new version of WE. A
script could be out, that simply OVERRIDES the 'built-in' Browse Mode, that is
implemented in WE as per date. Later on, yes, go ahead and remove the built-in
Browse Mode, but the script could be out far sooner than a new version of WE. A
bit of a job to built such a script? OH, YES! But what a job to rebuilt the
built-in code in WE? And when will next version of WE come out? Again, no
complaint, but let's face the fact. Few things that the users put their screen
reader on to accomplish, is any more dynamically, and rapidly changing, than
namely the WEB. We've got scripts for far more stabile and non-dynamic tasks
than that, already. As time goes by, more and more of the web will rapidly
change. If GW have to rebuild their code for all of these changes, they will
soon find they have to run a whole staff on just that one task. Putting it out
as a script, will take away a good portion of that pressure, from their
shoulders, as stated in the four points above.
Well, what do you listers, think about this?
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