Hi Keith, I'm also using window eyes on a laptop.
why do you say your laptop has no way to use a number pad? did you mean it has no numberpad? yes, and there are ways around that. Or perhaps, did you mean the usual way around it, to hold down the fn key and use some of the alphabetic keys around the u i and o, does not work for you? This is how most of us laptop users end up having to do it. all today's laptops have an fn key, and when you hold it down, it makes the group of alphabetic keys I mentioned into a numeric pad. Yes, I too have found the utility for making the capslock key into an insert key to be very erratic. so, keeping with the standard layout is your best choice, and it allows you to talk to other window eyes user, and understand what they mean when they specify a key combination, and you in turn will be understood, since you'll be using the standard layout. Are you by any chance familiar with the audio conferencing software called TeamTalk? it allows many people to form an audio conference together; it's very easy to use, and I've wondered if we might use it to hold informal training sessions on various window eyes topics. one for laptop users might be useful; one for scripts; how to use them, what they're good for, how to write them? the only difficulty is you'd have to learn a little bit about how to use TeamTalk. if others were interested though, we could try to arrange some sessions. TeamTalk lets us all talk at once, so people can stop the person doing the explaining when they have a question, before they get left too far behind. it only requires a headset with a microphone, and it's free. hth, Chip -----Original Message----- From: Keith Hinton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:03 AM To: gw-info Subject: An improved laptop keyboard layout suggestion How many of you use the present laptop keyboard layout provided by GW Micro? Though my laptop provides much it has no way to use a number pad at all. I do not wish to create my own layout, or always need scripts to make the layout more accessible. I've tested the homer layout but find the remapping of capslock to be inconsistant. That needs to be a system wide thing in that case. Another problem I have found is that if you use keyboard describer mode in the Window-Eyes system, the insert key or whatever is processed as a separate key. So if you pressed insert something you'd see: "Insert No discription for this key!" "Reads date and time" for instance. So let me know what you all think. Maybe someone at GW Micro could produce an audio document taht actually goes over with demonstrations all of the laptop specific keystrokes available for Window-Eyes. Thanks. Regards, --Keith If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
