yes i did reinstall the explorer set files as well.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
To: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer


here i am again.
did you try reinstalling the windows explorer set files?
maybe this got corupted
i have had to do this a few times with the outlook express set files.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
To: "net bat" <[email protected]>
Cc: "GWMicro List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer


>    net bat, tthat is what i had done before remember grins.
> That is why i am still stumped as to why this is happening
> could some other thing have happened maybe the video intercept? got
> krupted?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
> To: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>
>
> you could re install the window eyes defaults set files. but doing this
> will
> erace any global settings you made. the exception dictionary and the
> graphices.gra dictionaries you have changed. unless you make a backup copy
> of  the wineyes default folder in the users account\application folder.
>
> set to text.
> you use the set to text first. load the wineyes.000 set file.
> then use a destination file name. i use the .txt extention to make it
> easier
> to find and to be able to load it into notepad.
> you could create a folder on the root directory. then use that path to
> save
> the file to.
> like c:\wineyes\wineyes.txt
> it will de compile the file to a text file you can view with notepad.
>
> but it is over welming.
> i use the windows find command to find command lines.
> you would have to find the verbocity menu in the file and then try to find
> the commands you want to change. like for the focus menu.
> search for these lines. this what they are suppose to be set to.
> Focus_Field_Name = On
> Focus_Field_Data = On
> this is the factory default for these commands.
>
> you would change these lines.. save the text file. then go to text to set.
> use the path to the text file for the sorce file.
> then use wineyes.000 for the output set file. if it is successful it will
> compile with no errors.
>
> other info.
> like if you wanted to make a text file to change the voices for all set
> files. like with a new upgrade etc.
> you could get the voices the way you want them. decompile the wineyes.000
> set file.
> find the menu for the screen,keyboard and mouse voice menus. delete
> everything that does not apply so only the voices are there.
> leave a blank line at on the last line of the text file and save it.
> then the next time you have to upgrade wineyes you could use this text
> file
> to change the voices on the upgrade.
> you would use the text to set.
> the my wineyes.txt for the source file.
> then  if you want to make this apply to all set files use this command in
> the output file
> *.0??
> if you only want this to apply to the wineyes.000
> use wineyes.000 for the output file.
> you would decompile the wineyes.000 set file with set to text.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
> To: "net bat" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "GWMicro List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>
>
>>i tried all of the suggestions you have gave i also tried shutting off and
>> on windoweyes several times in a row, and no luck on any of it.
>> I thought that you  would be reinstalling the set files that way that
>> would
>> give you everything back gobally instead of things do you think something
>> went arye in the set files? i have never used set to txt and txt to set
>> how
>> do you use them?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>
>>
>> you may need help. but i was able to make mine do the same thing as
>> yours.
>> when on the desktop press insert v to open the verbocity menu.
>> go to focus and check  feild name and feild data.
>> you may not hear anything even in the verbocity menu if they are
>> unchecked.
>> when i turned them off nothing in the file lists or desktop spoke except
>> when tool tips were turned on. i have tool tips turned off . save your
>> explorer set file.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>> To: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "GWMicro List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>
>>
>>>    Net bat i want the items to read in the explorer  windows and to read
>>> the desktop like it did before.
>>> meanning e.g when i enter my documents and navagate to lets say my music
>>> i
>>> want it to say my music. e.g and also when i navagate the desktop i want
>>> to
>>> hear the items on my desktop!
>>> The Tool tips work just fine
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 11:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>
>>>
>>> are we still talking about disableing the speaking of the tool tips?
>>> check it again. the explorer.000 set file is loaded twice. one for the
>>> desktop and one for the shut down menu next to the sys trayy.
>>> there should be one loaded for the desktop and one for the shut down
>>> menu.
>>> with me when i go to the shut down menu without opening it then open the
>>> w
>>> e
>>> control panel it was saying wineyes.000 set file was loaded and none was
>>> associated. until i associated the second copy to the shut down menu.
>>> if you make changes to one it does not update the other. even if both
>>> say
>>> they are useing the explorer set file.
>>> and sometimes when you go to the desktop  the wrong one would be loaded.
>>> the
>>> only way i could tell it was the wrong one is when i associated a set
>>> file
>>> to the shut down menu i gave it another extention. explorer.001 then i
>>> know
>>> when the wrong one is running on the desktop.
>>> i know. its a mess but i got it working this way.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "GWMicro List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>
>>>
>>>> ok, that did not work either what else can i try to fix this?
>>>> like i said  system access and nvda work fine witht he desktop and the
>>>> windows explorer
>>>> i noticed this after i came back from leaving the computer for a while
>>>> and
>>>> then i went into the my documents and was going to do some work there
>>>> window
>>>> eyes would not read that and then i found the desktop did not read.
>>>> i already checked pixal size and the like as well, to make sure it was
>>>> not
>>>> any of them.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:28 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the advanced menu. i always leave it in this mode. then you'll see all
>>>> the
>>>> options you have been missing.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "GWMicro List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>i still do not see the general menu in window eyes is this in the
>>>>>advanced
>>>>> mode or in the beginner mode?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so what are you saying?
>>>>> is it working with wineyes or not?
>>>>> with tool tips off from the w e general menu it will only effect the
>>>>> way
>>>>> ew
>>>>> e works. it would not effect nvda at all.
>>>>> if you turn tool tips off within windows from the windows tools/folder
>>>>> options pull down then it would be off and no screen reader would
>>>>> speak
>>>>> the
>>>>> tool tips because they do not appear when it is turned off in windows.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "GWMicro List" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:39 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, i tried this and then nothing reads at all, when using nvda, and
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> access the desktop, and windows explorer windows read correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:35 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can do it from two places.
>>>>>> auto speak tool tips in the general menu.  this does not disable the
>>>>>> tool
>>>>>> tips. it just stops them from talking.
>>>>>> but i think you would have to turn this off on every setfile that
>>>>>> tool
>>>>>> tips
>>>>>> could be spoken.
>>>>>> the other place  is in any windows explorer window. like in the list
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> drives.
>>>>>> open my computer. then the file pull down menu. go to tools and
>>>>>> folder
>>>>>> options.
>>>>>> tab to the view control tab. then to the list of options. go to the
>>>>>> bottom
>>>>>> of the list and arrow up about 6 times until you get to show pop up
>>>>>> descriptions for folders. or something like that. press the space bar
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> turn it off. you will have to arrow away and back to the option to
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> if it has been turned off. then tab to o k to save the changes.
>>>>>> there should not be any tool tips anymore on the desktop.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Cc: "GWMicro List" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you mean  in the window eyes  control pannel or in windows itself?
>>>>>>> I do not know where you would find the tool tip in window eyes if
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> one to read things nor where you are talking about the general menu.
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> let me know.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:10 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> turn off the tool tips in the general menu.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "GWMicro List" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:28 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Problem With Windows Explorer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using Windows XP Home and have all updates to windows and the
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>> version of Window Eyes. The items on the desktop and those in
>>>>>>> explorer
>>>>>>> windows read the tool tip but do not read the name of the item I am
>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> guess you could say it is not reading the highlighted items. I have
>>>>>>> uninstalled and reinstalled both the default Window Eyes and Windows
>>>>>>> Explorer set files but this did not fix it. How can I get it to read
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> items again?
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