Just updated, but I'm back on xp and so far it hasn't happened. I got tired
of everything crashing and my windows 7 system not being able to stay
running reliably for more than a day, so I said heck with it and went back
to xp after six or so months.
----- Original Message -----
From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
To: "Robert" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
have you tried the 3.6.18 f f version?
i got this update last night and so far f f has not crashed. it use to
always crash when i closed the program. not even this has been happening
with this version.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
I find that killing the process where you are at when the speech loss
occurs restores speech. For instance, if you're in firefox and wineyes
stops speaking, the computer will slow dramatically, and if you kill
firefox.exe in taskman it will often result in you getting your speech
back. Kind of a pain and I have no idea what causes it. This doesn't
always work, but it usually does.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
hi,
the windows bug is really that when programs stop responding windows
programs trying to access deep levels of the operating system get thrown
out of the loop. what happens most of the time when you lose speech is
your running program x. program x stops working so now window-eyes
stops speaking. is there anything wrong with window-eyes. no actually
window-eyes is working just fine it got kicked out of the playground so
to speak buy the program that has stopped working. when or if you could
get the program that has misbehaved to close you would probably find
that speech returns. this is a problem with all screen readers jaws
NVDA and even narrator.
here is an example.
was running internet explorer on the mlb sight this morning. explorer
stoped running. no speech started nvda to see if I could get speech
from that no dice. finely just restarted the system. as soon as I
started explorer I was told that my web page caused a problem and would
recover. so I know that exploerer was what caused the problem.
oh started jaws with this test to and it would not speak either. but as
you say had windows sounds.
so just remember that every time you lose speech it might not be the
fault of your screen reader. in fact here most of the time I have found
buy doing the research that it is another program that foobars
everything.
jim grimsby skypejim grimsby
skype jim.grimsby
-----Original Message-----
From: James Mannion
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: tony c ; Alan Siman ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
I have also had the problem with the loss of speech randomly on many
occasions and I do nt ever remember it being a total loss of sounds
under window 7. The need to reboot or at leastlog out at that point
always produces the window souns. The windows sound for the error
message that window-eyes is already loaded still plays. You can be
doing anything it seems when this loss of speech will randomly happen.
I created the batch file as suggested a while back and using it does
not allow window-eyes to be reloaded after it is used. I really wish
we could at least be told what the cause of this problem is instead of
us all validating it and nothing ever coming of it and hearing nothing
in response other than blaming the windows bug of loss of all sound
when that is not what happen.
On 6/23/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
As something you might try, put a shortcut to a batch file which kills
WE on your desktop and put a letter in the shortcut field and under
advanced options, check run as administrator. then if WE gets stuck,
press control-alt and the letter and shift tab when the user account
control comes up, wait a few seconds and you may be able to start WE
again.
tony c <[email protected]> wrote:
I’m not using T B and it still happens. The last one was in WLM while
I
was trying to read a link address back to netflix customer service...
Tony C
From: Alan Siman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
I am having the same issue starting today. WE has crashed twice but
win7
sounds are still on and the same inability to close we is here. I
even
tried task manager and we would not close. I wonder if it is the tb
enhanced ap which I reloved and put back today.
On 6/23/2011 6:21 PM, Don H wrote:
The random loss of speech is no better with WE 7.5.1.
I understand that Windows 7 has a known bug where you loose all
sound.
But in these cases only WE speech stops. It can happen at any time.
When it happens I can't access the WE user interface and if you
attempt to
reload WE you get the message that WE is already running.
The last time it happened to me was when I was simply trying to
check a
checkbox in windows update. The time before that I was just using IE.
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