Well, I've been running various versions of WE on this Dell notebook I bought back in July 2008 with few problems. Yes, I did uninstall some stuff that came preloaded on it, but other than that, I've pretty much been running it as it came. I have occasional loss of speech, whichh, as someone else mentioned, often comes back if I wait a few seconds. If it doesn't, then I do have to reboot; but that's not a routine occurrence. I tend to just put my notebook to sleep at night most of the time.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]> To: "'chris hallsworth'" <[email protected]>; "Chris Skarstad" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: Window eyes is totally screwed up now


Acer and Asus.  Talk about simelar names!

-----Original Message-----
From: chris hallsworth [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:17 AM
To: Chris Skarstad
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Window eyes is totally screwed up now

I've had personal problems with HP and have heard of masses of problems with Dell. Acer and Asus are probably about the best you can get. Yes they come with bloatware but they are easy to remove and most uninstallers are accessible from the keyboard while the rest you can simulate mouse clicks. Personally I will stick with Acer and or Asus for future computing unless I get a mac smiles.


Christopher H

On 14/12/2011 15:37, Chris Skarstad wrote:
Whenever possible i steer clear of HP and even dell computers. You
guys would not believe all the crap they put on these machines when
you first buy them! popup adds, free offers, 30 day trials of
antivirus software that goes so deep in the registry that most people
can ever completely uninstall it, it's a mess. My girlfriend got a
netbook recently and it took me about 2 and a half hours to get rid of
all the free junk they put on it. So let's not blame all the problems
on window-eyes. My advice is to take a look at what programs are
running and if you notice that wineyes crashes when that program runs,
the best solution is to get rid of said program. There's no way on
earth i can tell you what it is, but yes, hp is the worst...I've also
seen the audio service shut down for no reason. it's nuts.





On 12/14/2011 10:06 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
HP, yeah, tell me about it. I work with an HP server sometimes, and
it has had it's share of problems including the audio service tanking
for no reason whatsoever.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Fouts [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:53 AM
To: 'Bryan Peterson'; 'Loy'; GW-info
Subject: RE: Window eyes is totally screwed up now

I know that Johnye Pryor, who is on this list, was using an HP and
she just went back to a Dell. We use to always have more problems
with speech on HP computers here at work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Peterson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:49 AM
To: Sandra Fouts; 'Loy'; GW-info
Subject: Re: Window eyes is totally screwed up now

Well mine's a Toshiba and I only rarely have loss of speech problems.
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandra Fouts"<[email protected]>
To: "'Loy'"<[email protected]>; "GW-info"<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: Window eyes is totally screwed up now


Hey maybe we should look at this from another angle. For those that
are having the most problems what brand is the computer giving the
most problems. For example, isit HP, Dell, or what?

-----Original Message-----
From: Loy [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:22 PM
To: GW-info
Subject: Re: Window eyes is totally screwed up now

I have to agree here,I am running WE 7.5.2 on three computers and are
not having any of the problems. One is a Dell XP, one a Compaq XP and
a Gateway laptop with Win 7.
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas rudolph"<[email protected]>
To: "Chip Orange"<[email protected]> Cc:<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: Window eyes is totally screwed up now


yes, i would agree, i think it has more to do witht he machine then
with win eyes, i am running iwn eyes 7.0 on a dell xps xp desktop
machine, no problem, and 7.5.1, and 7.5 on a toshiba techra laptop,
and hp persario, and have absolutley no problems with the
functionality of win eyes. i would lean toward a potential restore of
your machines, or, maybe its got a hidden virus which i have had before.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: Window eyes is totally screwed up now


Andy,

why do you think so few people seem to feel the way you do? Do you
think it possibly could be something on your pc? I'd say most of the
rest of us feel it's as stable as it ever was, and the benefits of
the scripting is just enormous.


Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: Baracco, Andrew W [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Window eyes is totally screwed up now

WE has become so unstable on the two machines that I have access to
that I have pretty much stopped using it. I just don't have the
time to keep rebooting and to jump through all the hoops, etc. Two
weeks ago I had an HD crash on this machine, and I haven't yet
bothered to reinstall WE on it. Perhaps I'll revisit it when a
major upgrade comes around. Personally, I think the problems began
with WE version 7.0 and the scripting capability. What we gained
from the scripts, or apps, as they're now called, we lost in
stability. WE can no longer lay claim to being rock solid.
Now, it's as flaky as a teen age girl.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony_C [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:23 AM
To: Chris Skarstad; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Window eyes is totally screwed up now

Hi,
I've already removed and reinstalled it two times.
T

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Window eyes is totally screwed up now

Hi. It sounds like an uninstall and a re-install might be in order
for you. WE is a great screen-reader but trust me, it's a walk in
the park compared to what I had to go through when I was using the
others...especially jfw. don't even get me started LOL! either way,
that's really my best suggestion.

On 12/13/2011 9:35 AM, Tony_C wrote:
Hi All,
Well since the release of 7.5.2 things are worse than ever.
I open an
email and W E just sits there and reads nothing. There is still a
problem with trying to edit a message that I'm composing in
WLM. Also,
now if I'm on a webpage and hit enter on an email link when
the blank
message comes up W E sees the To field as being empty..
However I did
verify through a sighted person that indeed the address was
in the To
field just that W E wouldn't read it. Now there is still
the problem
with spell check in word, which doesn't make sense because with
JFW and Nvda it works just fine. Why do we using W E have to do
all these
key strokes to use spell check when it has always been as simple
as tabbing once to the list of suggestions and arrowing to the one
of your choice and hitting enter. It still works that way with
the other two screen readers.
I've been a faitful W E user since 2003 and have recommended it to
many people. However now Im afraid that I can no longer do
so because
of the frustration that it causes. Unless some real fixes
take place
This will be the last version iof W E that I will be using.
It may be
$300 cheaper that it's major competitor but lack of ability
to use it
in an efficent manner out-weighs the cost.
Tony
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