Hello David,
Most of the time you can find the element in browse mode then do an 
insert-numpad-plus to route the mouse and then numpad-slash to left click.



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-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:56 AM
To: WE English Mailinglist
Subject: Mouse on the net

This morning I ran into one of these cases where we definitely are being 
left behind, due to lacks of screen reader activity. I was performing 
some ordering on a website, and it asked me to accept some terms. The 
way to accept, is to check a box. Normally, not a big deal, you go there 
with your cursor in browse mode, and hit spacebar. Not so this time. 
Turning off browse mode did not help either. I have seen several cases 
of this kind before, and the old trick was to move the mouse to the 
checkbox, and left-click on it. Trouble is, since GW has not fixed mouse 
functionality in Internet Explorer after several years, you cannot 
perform this kind of trick, at least not when you are blind. Calling the 
manager of the website is little help, since all they tell is to do 
exactly that - move your mouse there and click.

Another scenario I ran into recently, is at my bank's website. They have 
an edit box, where you can type in your account number. Yet, at the end 
of the edit field, there is a tiny arrow-like icond. Now, if you click 
on this one, you will see a drop-down list open, where you can select 
between your personal accounts. All of this, according to the 
information I got after more like half-an-hour's conversation with 
customer service in the bank. I eagerly tried to inform them that blind 
people do not use the mouse, and they simply kept telling me that I was 
just to click on that arrow-icon, to open the drop-down list. Thing is, 
that one of my accounts cannot easily be accessed simply by entering the 
account number, and you need to scroll down to that entry in the list, 
so as to perform any action on the account.

POOF, POOF and once again POOF. How am I supposed to be operating the 
web, when web-designers are more and more making things only accessible 
through the usage of the mouse, and the screen reader does not seem to 
have any much for plans to fix the mouse?

Well, GW, AISquare or whatever you like to name yourself - please, could 
we have that mouse-functionality up running again. Please, pretty soon. 
Things get really complicated when we cannot perform the things that we 
are supposed to. Wonder how many sighted people - even among the staff 
members - that would quietly sit and accept they could not perform their 
banking activityies, just because the mouse did not work as expected. 
Blame it on bad web-design, but then you have to blame many a piece of 
software as well. And in general we have had the workaround, nicely 
built-in with the screen reader, to use the mousekeys. It works in all 
other software, just not in Internet Explorer. And the promise was that 
there was a fix for it. Still, it is not working. And for the sites I 
have had the trouble, Firefox has not been a doable alternative. 
Besides, what do you do, if your tech department does not allow for 
anything but Internet Explorer? Sorry to say, but I really see this to 
tie in with a few other lacks of the screen reader, that might make me 
consider alternatives in the future. If GW hope to keep their customers, 
this should be one of the things that really got some priority by now.

Staff members, is there plans for any near-future solutions to this 
issue? Does next version of the screen reader include any such fix? 
Please let the community be informed, as I would be rather surprised 
should I be the only one left with this frustration. :)


-- 
David
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