Hi

If this feature was made to work consistently then you would be able to turn
it off.  There is a set file I do believe that loads when this window is
active.  You could simply set speak window type to never. It would not read
the type of window.  Indexes could be controlled  the same way.  turn them
on if you want them turn them off if you don't.  turn  off window title
recognition  to avoid hearing the name of this window. There you go the
window works correctly as it should if these settings are all on.  If you
want to change how it works you use the verbosity  options just as you would
anywhere else to turn it off. 

 

 

From: David [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 11:36 PM
To: Jim Grimsby Jr.; 'Dave Bahr'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: we 9 now saying, window, task switching.

 

Maybe you don't understand why some people want to have as little chatter in
their ears, long as they non-mistakably knows and are fully aware what they
are doing. And likely many will be with you, just as much as many are with
the others. That is why all we call for, is that it at least should be
possible for the user to turn this extra verbage on and off.





David

On 12/1/2014 7:43 AM, Jim Grimsby Jr. wrote:

Hi,

Reporting that you are in the task switching  list in my view is not point
list.  If I press alt+t for example while in an open file dialog I know that
it is going to take me to the files  type list box.  I know this,  but I
still want to hear the name of the list box I am in.  I know that pressing
alt+tab is going to take me to the task switching  list box.  So why
shouldn't the task switching  list act like all other lists?  Doesn't this
provide consistency. It is a list accessed in a different  manor yes, but a
list none the less.  I expect to get the list index count as I move from
item  to item  in a list box.  Considering the fact that the task switching
list is a list box why wouldn't I expect to get that same information in
this list as well. Doesn't this provide for a consistent interface? I am not
understanding why the task switching  list is not being treated as any other
list.  I am also not understanding why you would want it to be so.  Please
explain. 

Thanks 

 

 

From: Dave Bahr [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:00 PM
To: john riehl; 'Jim Grimsby Jr.'
Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: we 9 now saying, window, task switching.

 

That's my point. Get rid of the Task Switching comment altogether, something
which I have talked about before. Just have the list like Jim was describing
before so peple know how many icons are on the screen they are switching to.
But there's never been a point in the task switching thing, it's just
something I try to ignore. Hence, saying, window, task switching, it also
pointless. 

On 11/28/2014 4:43 AM, john riehl wrote:

I have to respectfully disagree. If I'm alt-tabbing, by definition, I'm task
switching. I was perfectly happy never hearing "task switching". If there
was a way to make this an option to turn on or off, fine, but to me it's
just extra verbeage. 

 

From: Dave Bahr [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 2:09 AM
To: Jim Grimsby Jr.
Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: we 9 now saying, window, task switching.

 

Yeah, what Jim said. copy the way that narrator reads the icons and
tells you how many you have open, I think that would be a great feature
to have.
On 11/27/2014 2:22 AM, Jim Grimsby Jr. wrote:
> Well think about it for a second.  What are you doing?  Well your task
switching. What are you in?  a window.    What should window-eyes tell you.
Well that you are task  switching and the name of the task you are switching
to. The problem with this is that the feedback is not consistent. The
problem is also that you don't get an index count.
> What window-eyes should be doing and saying. Task switching  list box.
goldWave 1 of 3.  Inbox Microsoft outlook 2 of 3.  Desktop 3 of 3.  Note so
window-eyes  tells me that I am in the task switching list the first time I
press alt+tab. If I keep holding down the alt key I have not left the list
so it just reports the name and index of the task I am switching to. Then of
course when I let go of the alt key I am placed in that  program I have just
switched to.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Bahr [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:06 AM
> To: gw-info
> Subject: we 9 now saying, window, task switching.
>
> Hi there. Seems new we 9 bt1 is now saying "window, task switching,"
> when using alt-tab. I was hoping that the whole Task Switching thing
> would go away with the new release as I just don't understand why it's
> there in the first place. So to now have we say, "window," before it, is
> kind of annoying. Just thought I'd bring it up. It's minor, I know, but
> better to say something now than when the final is released.
>
> Thanks, Dave
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