Hi Chip and Jeff,

    that may have been my problem as well. but, it went away, at least for 
now. I don't know what got mine to stop working, but the load button during 
that time did not even work.
    But, I have not loaded Apps since the, so I don't know if loading then 
attempting a second time would start this issue again.

    I also have XP Pro.
NOTE:
    remember Chip when I made up my include module and used the old version 
of file search which resides under XP and not later versions, I wonder if 
the GW version is in conflict with that version?

        Bruce

Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: problems with app manager


Jeff,

I too was able to duplicate them on my xp pc at work.  strange, I wouldn't
have said the version of windows would make any difference, but it did
happen at work where I couldn't load a .vbs a second time without leaving
the app manager and coming back in.

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Weiss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: problems with app manager

    I am having most of these problems on my xp Pro machine at work.
Jeff Weiss



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chip Orange <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: problems with app manager


Jeff,

just curious, are you running under xp?

I could try this under xp tomorrow when I'm back at work.

Chip


________________________________

From: Jeff Weiss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: problems with app manager



No.

The only changes I made was to get rid of all of the "ax windoweyes"
in the app.  I think there were 3 and the app runs fine.

I've tried other apps by loading the app manually, unloading the
app, and then loading again with the load button.  I have the same problem
with other apps.

Jeff Weiss









From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: problems with app manager



Thanks Jeff for not noticing the other compilation issues with the
example!  I did just fix them again.



Unfortunately, using my example code and eloquence and vista (and
vista could be important), I just cannot duplicate your problem.



Have you changed the code in the example (more than fixing the
compilation issues?)  could you be running into something which is still
running even after you try to unload it?  I seem to remember if an app
doesn't shut itself down by watching for the onShutdown event, it could take
window-eyes up to 30 seconds to shut it down.  this doesn't apply if the app
is doing nothing, but if it's busy doing something, then maybe it does
apply, so if you've altered the code significantly, why not post it here and
I'll take a look?



thanks.



Chip







________________________________

From: Jeff Weiss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: problems with app manager

I am continuing to have problems with App Manager.

Using WE 7.5 windows xp pro sp3



Try this and see what happens:

1.       Open App manager

2.        Choose load

3.        Type in an app name-I used the working version of the
example from Chip's class 10

Which I called PopUpText

4.       The app loaded fine for me.

5.       Choose unload and unload the app.

6.       Choose load again and load the same app.



When I did this, the app manager appeared to hang the speech and
finally the app appeared to be loaded--but it was not in the list.

When I loaded it a second time, it loaded properly again.



Also, as I reported before, when trying to load an app from a folder
within my default folder, either by typing the name or by using the dialog
to navigate to the file, there is a long delay, and then window-eyes reports
file not found.



I did switch to Eloquence instead of DecTalk and this seems to help
reducing some of the long speech blackouts, but I think that we really have
gone backwards with WE 7.5 as far as the App Manager, and the instability of
the DecTalk synthesizer interface.

Jeff Weiss






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