OK, I think you were reading something out of somewhere. I did not make any
final judgement. All I told you, is that the repetitive speech is anoying in
the existing 7+ editions of WE, and that I did notice that it was existing
in the version you ran for the demo. Great, it was only a beta. But namely
then, it would be proper for the users to give you feedback on what could be
improved. That should state nothing about the user reading too much out of
anywhere. I repeat, I hope that is one of the things GW will get fixed, for
the new version, whenever they do get it ready. And, I repeat, that it is an
already existing problem, so in a sense has nothing more to do with the beta
and demo you did, but the fact that apparently it still will linger on, if
not it is addressed. Since it was so obvious at a given point in the demo,
which I did refer to, I thought it would be easy for everyone to follow me,
as to what exactly is the problem. Far easier, than trying to explain
something, and then getting the message back, that the GW staff cannot
reproduce what I am talking about. At least, that was my thought. And yes,
others have solved the problem in their product, so now that you are working
on a new version, why not give this some attention as wel. OK, I am tuning
out here, just wanted you to know, I did not put or read anything into
anything. I simply gave some feedback.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Curry" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 8 Presentation
Please remember that I also said this was in beta and everything is changing
as well as the fact that we have a lot of polishing to do. So do not read
anything into text repeating itself as there is still work to do. These
types of judgments should not be made until the official release.
Thanks,
Jeremy Curry
Director of Training
GW Micro
Sent from my phone
On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:23 PM, "David" <[email protected]> wrote:
Apparently.
Near the end of the presenation, Jeremy said, that when Windows8 comes
out, GW hope to have a version of WE on the market that will handle it.
Whether - he said - this will be WE8, or some kind of WE7, he did not
know. Well, that at least, is how I got the message he gave. I do agree
with one of the other feedbackers, it was not very clear sound from the
presenter, and I do hope for a better sound in future recordings.
But as I got it, GW does not even promise WE8 on the market, the day
Windows8 is out. Who knows when Windows8 is out, and who knows when WE8 is
out. Browse mode rewrite has been told to come in WE8, so let's just hold
our breath. :)
Personally, I have to say, the new interface of Windows8 sounded rather
obscuure. Then again, I still linger with my XP machines, and am glad
there still is two more years, before I have to finalize that Operating
System. By then, who knows which version of Windows will be around. So
far, my machine has outlived both Vista and Windows7, so at least, I will
only have to take one big plunge, the day I am forced to do the change. By
then, likely GW will have a better and more functional version out as
well. One thing I did notice in the presentation, and which is rather
anoying already in the version of WE that is out as per now, is the
repetition of information. In the presentation, I think it was when Jeremy
tried to go to the PC Settings. The speech kept repeating the term "PC
Settings" three times or so. Honestly, WE is the only screen reader I have
been in touch with up through the years, that insists on repeating terms
over and over again. And the more responsive the software gets, the more
verbose and repetitive. I really would have loved to see, now that GW is
working on a more in-depth new version, that they finally could have the
speech stop repeating itself. There is really no need for it at all, and
since other screen readers have managed to overcome such an ear-picking
anoyance several years ago, I wish WE could come to be on the same level;
finally. I guess they could hook on to the last spoken phrase, and then
hook on to the upcoming one, and if they were the same, simply cancel the
upcoming one. Don't tell me it's impossible, as I said, I have been in
touch with several screen readers, and the others don't repeat themselves
to the extremity. NVDA, is enough for one example here.
An interesting presentation, and although it did not convince me to make
any switch at the moment, it still gave a peek into what is round the
corner.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Huber" <[email protected]>
To: "gw-scripting" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 8 Presentation
Hi Aaron:
Thanks for that presentation. It was verry interesting and informative.
Does this mean that Window-eyes version 8 will not come out until
Windows 8 is on the market?
Kevin Huber
On 3/2/12, Aaron Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
Greetings,
If you're interested, we've posted a recording of the Window-Eyes and
Windows 8 CSUN 2012 presentation on our podcast page:
http://www.gwmicro.com/podcast
Thanks,
Aaron
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