If you have specific places where it is repeating with the 7.5.3 in current 
versions of Windows, please make a list and send them to [email protected] so 
we can investigate. Specific feedback like this would be very useful. Also 
please make aure to send steps on how to duplicate the problem. 

Thanks,

Jeremy Curry
Director of Training
GW Micro
Sent from my phone

On Mar 3, 2012, at 10:15 AM, "David" <[email protected]> wrote:

> OK, I think you were reading something out of somewhere. I did not make any 
> final judgement. All I told you, is that the repetitive speech is anoying in 
> the existing 7+ editions of WE, and that I did notice that it was existing in 
> the version you ran for the demo. Great, it was only a beta. But namely then, 
> it would be proper for the users to give you feedback on what could be 
> improved. That should state nothing about the user reading too much out of 
> anywhere. I repeat, I hope that is one of the things GW will get fixed, for 
> the new version, whenever they do get it ready. And, I repeat, that it is an 
> already existing problem, so in a sense has nothing more to do with the beta 
> and demo you did, but the fact that apparently it still will linger on, if 
> not it is addressed. Since it was so obvious at a given point in the demo, 
> which I did refer to, I thought it would be easy for everyone to follow me, 
> as to what exactly is the problem. Far easier, than trying to explain 
> something, and then getting the message back, that the GW staff cannot 
> reproduce what I am talking about. At least, that was my thought. And yes, 
> others have solved the problem in their product, so now that you are working 
> on a new version, why not give this some attention as wel. OK, I am tuning 
> out here, just wanted you to know, I did not put or read anything into 
> anything. I simply gave some feedback.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Curry" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 8 Presentation
> 
> 
> Please remember that I also said this was in beta and everything is changing 
> as well as the fact that we have a lot of polishing to do. So do not read 
> anything into text repeating itself as there is still work to do. These types 
> of judgments should not be made until the official release.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeremy Curry
> Director of Training
> GW Micro
> Sent from my phone
> 
> On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:23 PM, "David" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Apparently.
>> 
>> Near the end of the presenation, Jeremy said, that when Windows8 comes out, 
>> GW hope to have a version of WE on the market that will handle it. Whether - 
>> he said - this will be WE8, or some kind of WE7, he did not know. Well, that 
>> at least, is how I got the message he gave. I do agree with one of the other 
>> feedbackers, it was not very clear sound from the presenter, and I do hope 
>> for a better sound in future recordings.
>> 
>> But as I got it, GW does not even promise WE8 on the market, the day 
>> Windows8 is out. Who knows when Windows8 is out, and who knows when WE8 is 
>> out. Browse mode rewrite has been told to come in WE8, so let's just hold 
>> our breath. :)
>> 
>> Personally, I have to say, the new interface of Windows8 sounded rather 
>> obscuure. Then again, I still linger with my XP machines, and am glad there 
>> still is two more years, before I have to finalize that Operating System. By 
>> then, who knows which version of Windows will be around. So far, my machine 
>> has outlived both Vista and Windows7, so at least, I will only have to take 
>> one big plunge, the day I am forced to do the change. By then, likely GW 
>> will have a better and more functional version out as well. One thing I did 
>> notice in the presentation, and which is rather anoying already in the 
>> version of WE that is out as per now, is the repetition of information. In 
>> the presentation, I think it was when Jeremy tried to go to the PC Settings. 
>> The speech kept repeating the term "PC Settings" three times or so. 
>> Honestly, WE is the only screen reader I have been in touch with up through 
>> the years, that insists on repeating terms over and over again. And the more 
>> responsive the software gets, the more verbose and repetitive. I really 
>> would have loved to see, now that GW is working on a more in-depth new 
>> version, that they finally could have the speech stop repeating itself. 
>> There is really no need for it at all, and since other screen readers have 
>> managed to overcome such an ear-picking anoyance several years ago, I wish 
>> WE could come to be on the same level; finally. I guess they could hook on 
>> to the last spoken phrase, and then hook on to the upcoming one, and if they 
>> were the same, simply cancel the upcoming one. Don't tell me it's 
>> impossible, as I said, I have been in touch with several screen readers, and 
>> the others don't repeat themselves to the extremity. NVDA, is enough for one 
>> example here.
>> 
>> An interesting presentation, and although it did not convince me to make any 
>> switch at the moment, it still gave a peek into what is round the corner.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Huber" <[email protected]>
>> To: "gw-scripting" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 8 Presentation
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Aaron:
>>> Thanks for that presentation.  It was verry interesting and informative.
>>> Does this mean that Window-eyes version 8 will not come out until
>>> Windows 8 is on the market?
>>> Kevin Huber
>>> 
>>> On 3/2/12, Aaron Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> 
>>>> If you're interested, we've posted a recording of the Window-Eyes and
>>>> Windows 8 CSUN 2012 presentation on our podcast page:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/podcast
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Aaron
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Aaron Smith
>>>> Web Development * App Development * Product Support Specialist
>>>> GW Micro, Inc. * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
>>>> 260-489-3671 * gwmicro.com
>>>> 
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>>>> 

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