May I add that some of us have just been staying *out* of the whole mess? ;o) I'm on H-costume for the sheer variety of topics and times and talents, from the long-time amateurs such as myself to the professionals in theatre or research--it's all yummy. (and no, I didn't start out intending to make them all "t" words, but it's really hot here, so what the heck....) I don't mind the occasional chattiness at all--if there's a whole bunch of "me, too" posts, I just delete them as I would any thread in which I have no interest. So here's one person who will upfront say that she likes the chat. It's a bit like being in a room full of people (as in a party, or a fun convention), all talking about similar things, all at once, and I tune in to what I want to listen to and contribute to. I don't find myself cringing in the least (groaning, occasionally, though, if something goes on and on and on, as this whole mess seems to be....) On the other hand, I have enough to do with my work and leisure time without fussing over whether I've got the right freaking "tag" in my subject line. I already do try to remember the basics of "OT" for "off-topic," or "OOP" for "out of period" on time-restricted lists, and things like changing subject lines. And I really don't see much "speculation" over anyone's personal life that's uninvited. Frankly, if someone drops a big, blue note in the middle of the list, I think they're asking for comment, or they wouldn't be going to the trouble of typing it up and sending it. Ditto, snarky words or sneaky comments, or outright rudeness. --Sue
----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] subject lines > > Although I thought other people also thought maybe there was a bit too > > much off-topic and personal chat, I assume "the one individual" means > > me. If not, who is it? > > Hey, it's not just one individual - there are two of us at least! > > As far as people unsubbing, there were some implications of that, > such as not wanting to lose the list as a resource or suggestions > that people can go elsewhere. > > Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but I hate change. One change > that I see in various places on the internet is drama. I really > enjoy the on-topic, serious, "professional", scholarly tone of > H-Costume - even those new to costume or new to the list can see > that. Although some may feel intimidated to post at first, they can > see that we're high on information and low on noise. > > So when I see things happening that are personal, chatty, off-topic, > gossip, what-have-you, I cringe a bit and hope it will stop very > soon. I don't want to lose the people, the flavor, and the topics > that remind me why I enjoy historic costume so much. > > And while a couple of people have commented that they did not think > it was a problem, I have not seen anything saying that they think > it's great to go off-topic, or that it's fun to read one-liners over > and over, or that it's helpful to speculate about someone's personal > life. > > On a lighter note, for those who enjoy a parody of Internet Drama: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXUHy8vrVY0 > > -Carol _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume