On Apr 28, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Saragrace Knauf wrote:

> Got the link to work- Thanks.
>
> When studying to make my model of these (Breughel)  jackets, I  
> interpreted the sleeve to actually set into an arm hole.  I see  
> that it could also be interpreted without.  I just went on the  
> "majority" rules - even within this painting the similar fashion is  
> shown with a round armhole on women's clothes.  Most of the men's  
> also are set into a round hole.

It's true that some are shown with a regular round armscye, but some  
are clearly missing that seam, so I think the square-bottomed armscye  
was another option (especially if it shows up in the 15th century as  
well).  Someday I'll try one just to see how it works.

Melanie
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