Eureka! or rather, while putting the bodice together, I found a quote that might be why i had decided to line the skirt with wool as well as the bodice, beyond the whole making it reversible. though since this time I am Drea's directions unlike before when I made my own sewing directions (so i could sandwich the skirt between the bodice layers instead of making both seperate, and tehn attaching the two together) i actually was able to find this quote.
here is the quote from Drea's web page "The skirts in 16th century genre paintings were lined-all those where the lining could be seen, that is. The lining was often a contrasting fabric, and was very likely wool rather than linen. " found on http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/makeflem.html I am sorry if i am slavishly quoting her, but i would really rather not do the original research myself, if i don't have to. I am just too lazy i think. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Rebecca Schmitt <lotsofteap...@charter.net> wrote: > Thanks for the explanation! I'm curious now too, were you only going to line > the bodice, or the whole skirt as well? I just imagine that lining the skirt > with wool would be incredibly heavy, no matter how light the wool is to > start with. > > ************************ > Rebecca Schmitt > aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire > ************************* > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com >> [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of J A Urbik >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:42 AM >> To: Historical Costume >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Flemish Dress >> >> I chose to line with wool for two reasons. >> >> reason 1) Drea sais that the shrinerose gown was lined with wool, so i >> figured i'd go with that. "This gown bodice will have three pieces: >> one back, and two front pieces. Lining is optional. The >> shinrone gown was partially lined with wool; it is a rather >> complex lining process, involving extending the bodice >> pattern down and folding the excess fabric up on the inside. >> I tried it, and it made quite a respectable gown bodice. " >> >> reason 2) it is fairly easy to make the gowns reversable, so >> I do so, and I figured that if I wanted wool on the outside, >> and i wanted it reversable, I needed wool on both sides. >> >> reasson 3) not a big deal, but if one wants wool, one of the >> reasons that one wants wool is that it hanges diffrently then >> linen, and so lining with linen would change the hang? this >> one i am not too sure of cause i have not done much with wool >> in the past. >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Rebecca Schmitt >> <lotsofteap...@charter.net> wrote: >> > I'm curious why you decided to line with wool as well as >> use wool for >> > the top fabric? Most of the extant garments I can think of (and, >> > admittedly, my memory on this is not spectacular!) are >> lined with linen. >> > >> > I made an overgown of this sort a few years back, with the >> outside a >> > mid-to-lightweight wool and the lining linen; I'm pretty sure I did >> > not use an interlining of any sort. I it cut away in the >> front quite a >> > bit, so it really doesn't come together much past the >> shoulder straps. >> > It's very comfy, although it does wrinkle some. That doesn't really >> > bother me much - the ease of movement as I chase my >> 3-year-old is much more important! >> > >> > ************************ >> > Rebecca Schmitt >> > aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire >> > ************************* >> > >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com >> >> [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of J A Urbik >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:40 AM >> >> To: h-costume@mail.indra.com >> >> Subject: [h-cost] Flemish Dress >> >> >> >> Hi all, am making this year's edition of the whole flemish dress, >> >> this time I am making a Gored Kirtle >> >> (http://www.elizabethancostume.net/kirtlepat/gored.html) and an >> >> overdress >> >> (http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/makeflem.html#gown). >> >> In the past I had made both under and overdress out of linen, >> >> because I was mostly doing summer events. >> >> >> >> However, this time I am going to make the overdress out of >> wool, with >> >> wool as the lining. Both are fairly light weight, and we will see >> >> about how hot it is (i actually think it should be book, >> at least for >> >> non-extremely hot days, and for the really hot days, a couple of >> >> pieces of ice down the bodice should do wonders). >> >> >> >> What I would like advise about would be should I put an addition >> >> layer of sturdy linen or something as an underlining on >> the bodice, >> >> or will the just the wool be ok? >> >> >> >> I know I will need a strip of something sturdy down the >> front edges, >> >> from previous experience with the style, but I have not worked too >> >> much in wool, so i don't know how it will go. >> >> >> >> The gored kirtle that the overdress will go on top of is >> a fashion >> >> fabric and a lining, both of sturdy linen, but not heavyweight. I >> >> wear size 16/18 and am about a B cup (about >> >> 5'4 and 180 pounds) if that influances your advise. >> Thanks for all >> >> help. >> >> >> >> >> >> jordana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> h-costume mailing list >> >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > h-costume mailing list >> > h-costume@mail.indra.com >> > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
