On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Brendan Borlase wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Arthus Erea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2008, at 8:47 AM, Brendan Borlase wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:29 PM, drzax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree that this is very unintuative and I was more than a little
>>>> confused when I first saw this behaviour. I don't think it's enough
>>>> to
>>>> say to theme authors 'please style unpublished posts  
>>>> differently'. I
>>>> strongly feel unpublished posts should not be displayed on the  
>>>> front
>>>> end by default. Administrators should have an option to put the
>>>> system
>>>> into some kind of preview mode. A simple get parameter would  
>>>> probably
>>>> sufice IMHO.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They certainly shouldn't (seconded!). The front end should only ever
>>> show
>>> published posts - including when logged in - and really, in future,
>>> should
>>> only show one's own posts (perhaps all published for a site admin).
>>
>> I'm confused. Why on earth would it not show all published posts?
>>
>> That seems 1 billion times more confusing. IMHO, we should *never*
>> hide published posts from users–whether in the frontend or backend.
>>
>
> Sorry, I'll make it clearer. Anything published by the same logged in
> user should be visible. Key word is "published" here.

Are you sure you mean published?

I can in no way support hiding posts from logged in users which are  
visible from logged out visitors!

>
>
> Ideally (ACLs?) a site admin should be able to see all published posts
> and in a multi-site blog, so should any additional editors - logged in
> users perhaps might see only their own drafts? There is a lot of scope
> to build a good ACL model.

Why would a user *not* be able to see published posts? It's published,  
for crying out loud. Why hide it?

Frankly, I am dumbfounded that we would consider something so  
confusing as hiding published posts from _anyone_.

>
>
> But drafts shouldn't exist outside of any preview pages. I'm not
> suggesting it should not be possible at all (plug-in ftw!) to show  
> drafts,
> but they typically would be viewed as part of the preview-publish  
> cycle,
> surely? :)

Sure.

>
>
> I think there seems to be some confusion over drafts being hidden
> entirely versus shown on the front page (which would indicate they
> were published on pretty much every other platform I have seen) when
> logged in - it's going to confuse many more people than help.

I think we agree a plugin would probably be the best approach.

>
>
> +1 as a plug-in. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brendan.
>
> >


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