I assumed the problems with moving files to windows was the different encoding of new-line characters. unix2dos and dos2unix can be used if that's the case, or their equivalents on windows systems. If eclipse is used, I think it can be changed to use whatever style you like.
About eclipse: I've used it a lot, both as a student, working in Java for the OS Project course, and at work, with CDT. With Java it worked great, and I don't remember any crashes. With CDT I think I did see it crash once or twice. Of course such crashes need to be investigated further, and since this list doesn't seem to have many Eclipse experts, I would try to get help here <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/>. I've also used PyDev and EclipseFP if it might help anyone. :) Haggai On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Eli Billauer <e...@billauer.co.il> wrote: > Hello again. > > Now we're talking! > > To begin with, I see that students mention problems with transporting > files to Windows. I suppose that they use Microsoft's compiler, and run > into problems with the back and forth? > > Which brings me to turn to all Linux evangelists out there: You've maybe > missed it, but this is the moment you've been all waiting for: Someone > has forced CS students to use Linux in the labs. They will end up either > hating it and stick to Windows, or adopt it on their own computers, > solving most of their annoying problems. And it looks like it's going to > depend on, well, us. > > There may be a need to make a LiveCD for CS students, which would > basically be the original Ubuntu disc + utilities for developing if > necessary. This could allow students to use the same environment at > home, without installing Linux on their hard disks. As this is an > recurring process (the disc will need to be upgraded as Ubuntu gets > upgraded) I can't see how it's done well by volunteers. But once someone > has done it the first time, I suppose it will be pretty easy to repeat it. > > As for Eclipse: Dear Haifuxers, is any of use using it? Personally, I > don't like IDEs, and I believe I have a few people with me on this > mailing list. > > If the policy would be to guide students to work with more down-to-earth > tools (XEmacs/vim, make, gcc, ddd etc) I suppose we have quite some > material handy, and I suppose it won't be difficult to find someone to > speak about these. I believe it's an educational choice, partly because > the programmer gets a better feel of the tools, as opposed to IDEs which > generally attempt to hocus-pocus. > > As for MS Office, there's always OpenOffice, which I don't use > personally. If the real problem is compatibility between MS and > OpenOffice, it's time to remind everyone that OpenOffice exists for > Windows as well. Or use the LiveCD solution. > > As for the other issues, I can only ask one question: Do you have one > Linux geek in the lab's support team? To me it seems like these problems > require a few hours each to solve, which is peanuts in terms of > employment, but too much to ask someone to volunteer for. > > Other views? > > Eli > > > -- > Web: http://www.billauer.co.il > > _______________________________________________ > Haifux mailing list > Haifux@haifux.org > http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux >
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