I wonder if we can take this discussion a bit further - possibly expanding it so that it does not just cover the 'ultimate' system.
If there was a smart linux hardware+software package to fit neatly under the TV for less than £250 that could combine the roles of PVR, network interface and DVD writer (blue-ray for a bit extra?) then it could be a very attractive consumer product. I see the Hants Wiki has thought a bit about the options but has not come up so far with any solutions. Of the three main suggestions made in the current discussion, (I know nothing about the X-Box), John Wesleys seems to have the most options, but I query the power requirement (is 65 W high these days?), the TV tuner (freeview and/or freesat - USB stubs would look out of place) and most importantly the user interface (we really need a handheld). Also are there drivers for the VIA CX700M2 graphics chip which is a key component. The total price comes out around £500 (without a blueray writer) which is a bit on the high side. In comparison Alan Pope's Acer Aspire seems much more cost effective - but does it need another box for the (twin) TV tuner and does it look right under the TV? Is the power sufficient to handle two input and one output TV streams at once? The great advantage with such a package is that the drivers should always work and problems like power/heat dissipation and hardware compatability should have been sorted out. Finally Hugo Mills' Popcorn Hour looks very professional but has none of the PVR properties which, from now on is likely to be considered essential. Anyway I wonder if we could start with these - as three levels which might attract interest - and then have suggestions about how they could be improved and what software would work together. Maybe a winter meeting devoted to 'around the house' media systems would be useful. Regards, David Webb ======================================================= Brief summaries: John Wesley, Hardware + Mythbuntu: £425 processor: Via C7 memory: 1 Gb Hard Drive: 1.5 Tb Optical drive: None Graphics: VIA UniChromeTM Pro II 3D/2D AGP Monitor: None Networking: Ethernet (RJ-45) Firewire Controls: Mouse and Keyboard Power supply: 65W adaptor Audio/Video: 1 x DVI 1 x RJ45 1 x miniDIN (S-Video) 1 x Triple RCA (composite video and steoeo) 1 x Triple RCA (component video) 1 x S/PDIF coaxial 1 x S/PDIF optical Internal ports: 2 (+ 4) x USB 1 x 1394 1 Front panel audio header 1 Audio line in header 1 LPC header 1 LVDS header 1 TV out header for SCART and D-terminal 1 video connector for VGA output 1 x video input and SMBUS 1 x PS2 mouse/keyboard header 2 x SATA Other connectors: 2 x fan connectors 1 x ATX power connector TV Control: Keyboard?!! TV Receiver: PCI Card Alan Pope, Acer Aspire Revo Desktop PC + Linux(?) £155.99 Processor: Intel Atom Memory: 1 Gb Hard Drive: 160 Gb Optical drive: None Graphics: NVidia IONth Monitor: None Networking: WiFi (802.11) Ethernet (RJ-45) Controls: Mouse and Keyboard Power supply: 65W adaptor Audio/Video : 1 x D-sub VGA 1 x HDMIth Headphones, Mike Other ports: 6 x USB 2.0 1 x eSATA 1 x Mini PCI express slot TV Control: Keyboard?!! TV Receiver: mini PCI card? Hugo Mills: Popcorn Hour A-110, Syaba OS(?), $215 (£215?) Memory: 256 Mb Networking: Ethernet Power: 12V (Less than 36 W) Audio/Video: HDMI v1.3a (up to 1080p) Component Video S-Video Composite Video Stereo Analog Audio S/PDIF Optical Digital Audio Other ports: 1+2 USB SATA TV Control: Hand held remote control TV Receiver: The system streams data from the www, other computers and attached storage. It is not clear of it can also act like a PVR and record from digital TV input, say via a receiver connected to a USB port. ============================================== -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------------