For all the stated reasons, I understand *WHY* the decision, I just don't agree with it, for reasons I've already stated. I just don't agree with the perceived benefits of such changes and in fact sense more implicit costs (that I've already stated).
That being said, it's nice to see a post from you JC. Thought you had gone missing! Lilly aim: deuxlits On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Jean Christophe André wrote: > Nguyen Hong Quang wrote: >> I think that we did discuss this problem since the beginning of HanoiLUG. I >> don't think that it's a good idea to add new mailings lists for HanoiLUG. > > In fact, adding new mailing-list doesn't change anything, except giving more > choices! ;-) > > It's the rules I did propose, especially for this list to become Vietnamese > only, that could change something… > >> Let any HanoiLUG member explain their idea or make question in his (her) >> prefered language (vietnamese or english) in an unified malinglist. It's not >> good to dinstinguish an english-HanoiLUG member to a (vietnamese-default) >> HanoiLUG one. I believe that JC has a good intention, but I'm afraid that it >> incites to the separation, ... > > It's somewhat funny to realise how people can't understand the fact that the > HanoiLUG subscribers have always been > isolated/distinguished/separated/whatever by their language abilities! > > There are subscribers who can't understand Vietnamese language, but are still > interested in HanoiLUG's activities, and are “annoyed” by the Vietnamese > language traffic that they can't read anyway. > > There are people, who don't even want to subscribe because there is too much > posts in Vietnamese language that they will just delete everyday. > > And how about Vietnamese people who can't understand English and/or French? > Sure they should learn and understand both of them perfectly but… I think you > got the point! ;-) > > For all these people, it's far better to get their own list and to discuss > out there. Everybody here is a HanoiLUG'ers, even when lacking some language > knowledge! > > Now, to leverage the separation, which is not good of course, people knowing > multiple languages shall subscribe to all the corresponding mailing-lists, to > make the bridge between them by translating from one to the others from time > to time, when it seems important to share the information broadly. > >> We will see that. > > Yep. No pressure here. Let's just wait and see. > > If it was a “not so good” idea, the language dedicated mailing-list will just > die by themselves. But this one would never die for sure. > > Cheers, J.C. > -- > Jean Christophe "プログフ" ANDRÉ — ✧ — Responsable technique régional > Bureau Asie–Pacifique (BAP) — ✧ — http://www.asie-pacifique.auf.org/ > Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) — ✧ — http://www.auf.org/ > Adresse postale : AUF, 21 Lê Thánh Tông, T.T. Hoàn Kiếm, Hà Nội, Việt Nam > Tél. : +84 4 9331108 ✦ Fax : +84 4 8247383 ✦ Cellul. : +84 91 3248747 > ⎧ Note personnelle: merci d'éviter de m'envoyer des fichiers PowerPoint ⎫ > ⎩ ou Word, cf http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html ⎭ > _______________________________________________ > POST RULES : http://wiki.hanoilug.org/hanoilug:mailing_list_guidelines > _______________________________________________ > HanoiLUG mailing lists: http://lists.hanoilug.org/ > HanoiLUG wiki: http://wiki.hanoilug.org/ > HanoiLUG blog: http://blog.hanoilug.org/
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