Hi PiBa-NL,

I just found the difference - there is none - I simplified and "anonimized" the configuration before posting it and I did not recognize that the frontend NGINX servers are also listening on different ports hosting different application code.

An example:

listen application80 0.0.0.0:80
  balance roundrobin
  option forwardfor
  option  httplog
  monitor-uri /haproxymon
option httpchk GET /index.html HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:\ monitoring\r\nConnection:\ close
  http-check expect string Welcome
  #option accept-invalid-http-response
  acl site_dead nbsrv lt 2
  monitor fail  if site_dead
  server frontend01.xxx 10.10.20.72:80 check
  server frontend02.xxx 10.10.20.73:80 check
  server frontend03.xxx 10.10.20.74:80 check
  server frontend04.xxx 10.10.20.75:80 check

listen application8078 0.0.0.0:8078
  balance roundrobin
  option forwardfor
  option  httplog
  monitor-uri /haproxymon
option httpchk GET /index.html HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:\ monitoring\r\nConnection:\ close
  http-check expect string Welcome
  #option accept-invalid-http-response
  acl site_dead nbsrv lt 2
  monitor fail  if site_dead
  server frontend01.xxx 10.10.20.72:8078 check
  server frontend02.xxx 10.10.20.73:8078 check
  server frontend03.xxx 10.10.20.74:8078 check
  server frontend04.xxx 10.10.20.75:8078 check

Sorry and thank you for help!

Regards,
Florian


On 20.01.2014 09:24, Florian Engelmann wrote:
Hi PiBa-NL,


Only advice i have left is to configure a 'stats' listen section and
syslogs.

I did this and I was not able to see any difference.


Besides that you should try and perform some tcpdump/wireshark traffic
capturing to see what kind of traffic / headers / content is passing
along. As i'm not aware of any differences between frontend/backend and
listen sections besides the obvious. And to me it seems like the changes
in default section and frontends backends should result in the same
behavior.. Using the traffic dump you could then try to compare those
and spot any differences..

Good point - I will try to do so and record some traffic for analysis.


b.t.w. are you replacing the config on the same machine and then
testing? Or is 1 running production and the other is under a
test.domain.name? Maybe the backend sends a different reply if the
request Host header is different..?

I replaced the config in production till the error was reported by the
customer. After that I set up a test KVM to reproduce the error.


Greetings,
Florian


Greets PiBa-NL

Florian Engelmann schreef op 17-1-2014 13:43:
Hi PiBa-NL,


Found a a minor difference, not sure if it is the issue.?
  - The 9000 backend checks up.php versus check.php.
  - Also I don't think http-send-name-header does anything in 'tcp
mode'..

If thats not it, maybe someone else has a clue. :)
p.s. You might want to configure a stats page to see if servers are
properly checked as 'up' by haproxy.

Greets PiBa-NL

thank you for your feedback! Sorry that was my fault - both do use
check.php - the up.php is an old one. Just a copy&paste error.

I still have no idea what makes the difference. I was not able to find
a chapter in the HAProxy documentation describing the difference of
listen vs. frontend/backend. Does any article about that topic exist?
I am really interested in understanding this issue. I do not know what
the application exactly does but all I know is - it does only work if
I use the "listen" configuration.

Regards,
Florian


Florian Engelmann schreef op 16-1-2014 12:29:
Hi,

I got two configurations the should do the same. One is based on a
frontend/backend layout the second does it with just listen. The
listen configuratiuon is working fine but the fontend/backend causes a
problem on the backend. It looks like some request string is missing
because the customer application is not able to resolve some lookup
which seems to be header related. Is anybody able to tell me whats the
difference in these two configurations?

========================================

global
    log /dev/log    local6
    #log /dev/log    local6 notice
    chroot /var/lib/haproxy
    user haproxy
    group haproxy
    daemon
    maxconn 50000
        stats socket /var/run/haproxy.sock mode 600 level admin
        stats timeout 2m

defaults
        log     global
        mode    http
        option dontlognull
        option dontlog-normal
        retries 2
        option redispatch
        timeout connect 5000
        timeout client 50000
        timeout server 120000
        timeout http-request 5000
        timeout http-keep-alive 5000
        option http-server-close
        http-check disable-on-404
        http-send-name-header X-Target-Server
        default-server minconn 1024 maxconn 4096
        monitor-net 192.168.xxx.xxx/32

listen application9000 0.0.0.0:9000
  balance leastconn
  mode tcp
  option tcplog
  option httpchk GET /check.php HTTP/1.0
  http-check expect string Hello World
  server xcmsphp01.xxx 10.0.4.4:9000 check port 80
  server xcmsphp02.xxx 10.0.4.7:9000 check port 80
  server xcmsphp03.xxx 10.0.4.3:9000 check port 80

listen application80 0.0.0.0:80
  balance roundrobin
  option forwardfor
  option  httplog
  monitor-uri /haproxymon
  option httpchk GET /index.html HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:\
monitoring\r\nConnection:\ close
  http-check expect string Welcome home
  acl site_dead nbsrv lt 2
  monitor fail  if site_dead
  server xcmsfrontend01.xxx 10.2.2.1:80 check
  server xcmsfrontend02.xxx 10.2.2.2:80 check


========================================

global
    log /dev/log    local6
    #log /dev/log    local6 notice
    chroot /var/lib/haproxy
    user haproxy
    group haproxy
    daemon
    maxconn 50000
        stats socket /var/run/haproxy.sock mode 600 level admin
        stats timeout 2m

defaults
        log     global
        mode    http
        option dontlognull
        option dontlog-normal
        retries 2
        option redispatch
        timeout connect 5000
        timeout client 50000
        timeout server 120000
        timeout http-request 5000
        timeout http-keep-alive 5000
        default-server minconn 1024 maxconn 4096
        monitor-net 192.168.xxx.xxx/32


frontend http-in
  bind *:80
  option http-server-close
  option forwardfor
  option httplog
  monitor-uri /haproxymon
  acl site_dead nbsrv(http-out) lt 2
  monitor fail if site_dead
  default_backend http-out

backend http-out
  balance roundrobin
  http-send-name-header X-Target-Server
  option forwardfor
  option http-server-close
  #option accept-invalid-http-response
  http-check disable-on-404
  option httpchk GET /index.html HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:\
monitoring\r\nConnection:\ close
  http-check expect string Welcome home
  server xcmsfrontend01.xxx 10.2.2.1:80 check
  server xcmsfrontend02.xxx 10.2.2.2:80 check

frontend php-in
  bind *:9000
  mode tcp
  option tcplog
  http-send-name-header X-Target-Server
Wont work in tcpmode
default_backend php-out

backend php-out
  balance leastconn
  mode tcp
  option tcplog
  http-send-name-header X-Target-Server
Wont work for tcp mode.
option httpchk GET /up.php HTTP/1.0
Should this be "check.php" v.s. "up.php"?
http-check expect string Hello World
  server xcmsphp01.xxx 10.0.4.4:9000 check port 80
  server xcmsphp02.xxx 10.0.4.7:9000 check port 80
  server xcmsphp03.xxx 10.0.4.3:9000 check port 80

========================

Regards,
Florian






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