I appreciate what you are doing, Terry. 

Thanks
Kevin
--- Terry Wiechmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> SourceForge does have a CVS. We have all the
> EsiObjects C++ (client) code
> out there. Over the next couple months we will be
> putting the core MUMPS
> routines out (next) as well as the class hierarchy.
> There should be overlap
> with what I'm doing at the MUMPS level and I would
> be more than willing to
> share that code and documentation with this group.
> It will yet again be a
> new learning experience and I would suggest one or
> two WV volunteers who
> know VistA get involved with me if you chose to take
> me up on my offer. It
> will give me the opportunity to learn a little about
> VistA kitting,
> structure, etc.
> I wished I had done this years ago. We were a small
> group of 3-4 who worked
> closely with each other. We used VSS in-house and
> were able to maintain
> version control rather easily just by coordinating
> with each other. However,
> since the developers have been scattered and a
> couple new volunteers have
> come on line, it is absolutely essential to have a
> common repository. With
> all the people involved in VistA, not having a
> common version control system
> is very scary.
> 
> Terry L. Wiechmann
> www.esitechnology.com
> 978-779-0257
> Skype: twiechmann
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] ScreenMan,
> Medsphere, and Open Source
> 
> 
> > I am delighted to here that your code will be
> available at some point.
> Your
> > original email stating that it was written for
> MedSphere was interpreted
> by
> > me to mean it was for Medsphere, and only
> Medsphere. Therefore, I thought
> > what sounded like a great idea ought to be
> recreated for the open source
> > community.
> >
> > One of the main strengths of open source as I
> understand it is that its
> use
> > by the community helps to debug it.  So if it is
> to be available, for now,
> > it seems it could be put on the SourceForge
> WorldVistA site for people to
> > use in a nonproduction environment to help to
> shake out the bugs.  If we
> > wait for everything to be perfect, it may never
> get out.
> >
> > The HUI folks released OpenVistA before it was
> tested out to be perfect
> > partly in the spirit of letting the open source
> community help to
> > participate in its debugging.  In fact, they
> deliberately released it to
> get
> > it out there in time for the Sacramento meeting so
> that process could
> begin.
> > Personally, I congratulate them for it and hope
> that Medsphere might
> > consider having your code released "early" as
> well.
> >
> > I find it most unfortunate that the VA has chosen
> not to use or even
> > evaluate code submitted by you and others.  It is
> ironic that you should
> > mention the internationalization code as I think
> they could have used it
> in
> > their recent effort to help with an implementation
> of VistA in Mexico. I
> > don't thing the right hand knows what the left
> hand already has in it.  I
> am
> > not privy to the whole story, but from the bits
> and pieces I pick up, that
> > is what I would guess has happened. Perhaps they
> need to be reminded of
> what
> > they were given!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of George
> > Timson
> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:43 PM
> > To: Hardhats
> > Subject: [Hardhats-members] ScreenMan, Medsphere,
> and Open Source
> >
> >
> > Dear Hardhats,
> >
> > I would like to respond to what I see on the
> Hardhats Sourceforge archive
> > page this morning:
> >
> > From: "Dr Molly Cheah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:29 AM
> >  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] ScreenMan
> >
> >
> >  > Oh, I thought it will be able open source [sic]
> .... After all
> Medsphere
> > uses
> >  > OpenVistA. Otherwise it sounds like "what"s
> yours is mine and what is
> >  > mine is mine" :)
> >  >
> >  > Molly
> >  > Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> >  >
> >  > >So all you M programmers out there.  How about
> an OPEN SOURCE version
> of
> >  > >this.  Think you can do it?
> >  > >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Anthracite and Dr. Cheah seem to assume that,
> if I write ScreenMan
> code
> > for Medsphere, it will not subsequently be
> open-sourced.  I am wondering
> > where they got this impression.  What Medsphere
> representative has ever
> > written or said this?
> >
> > The facts are that:
> >
> > 1) Medsphere has contributed to the Open-source
> implementation of
> > GT.M-compatible VistA code since early 2002.
> >
> > 2) Medsphere hosted a World VistA meeting at its
> offices in Orange County
> in
> > August 2002, and has sent representatives to
> virtually every meeting the
> > group has ever conducted.
> >
> > 3) Medsphere offered WorldVistA in 2002 a computer
> platform and software
> > (CMS) with which to manage open-source code.  The
> VistA community seems to
> > have left this resource unused.
> >
> > 4) In December, 2002, Medsphere gave to the DVA,
> for free, code changes,
> > written by me and paid for by Medsphere, to over
> 150 FileMan routines,
> which
> > enhance FileMan's Internationalization
> capabilities.  DVA has done nothing
> > to disseminate this code in the intervening two
> years, and has made it
> more
> > than clear that it will not deal with unsolicited
> enhancements or patches
> to
> > its large corpus of "parked" VistA software.
> >
> >
> > When the VistA community has in place a mechanism
> for submitting, testing,
> > peer-reviewing, approving, and disseminating code
> modifications, I will be
> > delighted to know about it.  Our ability at
> Medsphere to support such a
> > mechanism in-house has been hampered this year by
> our ongoing
> implementation
> > of VistA for several hospitals in the South
> Central U.S.  Nor do we now
> > believe that such a code-sharing mechanism should
> be in the hands of one
> 
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