Sombody a lot smarter than me will have to tell me what I should want.  ;-)

On Friday 17 December 2004 09:21 am, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
> Nancy --
>
> The answer is yes, a C encryption module can easily (trivially?) be
> integrated with a GT.M implementation of VistA.  But there's encryption
> and there's encryption.  Do you want public/private key (usually used to
> exchange keys for symmetric encryption rather than as the actual
> encryption key)?  Do you want symmetric encryption?  Do you want a
> cryptographic hash rather than encryption?  So, the more interesting
> question is what you want or need.  Once the encryption code is all set
> up, the actual interfacing to GT.M is a matter of a few minutes.
>
> -- Bhaskar
>
> On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 07:57, Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> > If C code can be put into M code with GTM, could we use open source PGP
> > type encryption for this wtihout having to rewrite it in M?  On the other
> > hand, we have to put it into the Delphi end as well.  Can you shove C
> > code into Delphi somehow?
> >
> > On Friday 17 December 2004 06:34 am, Lloyd Milligan wrote:
> > > Once again, my fingers found the "Send" hotkey before I'd finished
> > > replying. As I was saying, a modified version of ^XUSHSH was released
> > > that includes a simple cipher.  I believe this code may have been
> > > intended as a placeholder for real encryption.  It is easily invertable
> > > and should not be used for an electronic signature.
> > >
> > > Lloyd
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lloyd Milligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:27 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to set up electronic signature.
> > >
> > > > VA encryption code is not present in the public release.  Here is the
> > > > FOIA version of ^XUSHSH -
> > > >
> > > > XUSHSH   ;SF-ISC/STAFF - PASSWORD ENCRYPTION ;3/23/89  15:09 ;
> > > >         ;;8.0;KERNEL;;Jul 10, 1995
> > > >         ;; This is the public domain version of the VA Kernel.
> > > >         ;; Use this routine for your own encryption algorithm
> > > >         ;; Input in X
> > > >         ;; Output in X
> > > > A        Q
> > > > EN(X)    Q X
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However, a modified version, probably from WorldVistA includes a
> > > > simple invertable cipher at EN^XUSHSH.  The tag line reads -
> > > >
> > > > EN(X) ; generic hashing algorithm -- ASCII encoding of string
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Roy Gaber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:17 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] How to set up electronic signature.
> > > >
> > > >> The encryption code should not be present in the public release of
> > > >> VistA.
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > >> Kevin Toppenberg
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:02 PM
> > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to set up electronic signature.
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes they were replaced.  I know this, because I want
> > > >> to replace them in my site.  I don't like the
> > > >> requirements for upper and lower case, a number and
> > > >> punctation.  I'm not completely sure, as I write, if
> > > >> it the encryption code that enforces this, or the
> > > >> input transform on the field.  But I tracked down the
> > > >> module that does the encryption.  Its not terribly
> > > >> complicated--but it will work.
> > > >>
> > > >> Kevin
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>> I believe the encryption algorithms for the
> > > >>> electronic signature codes and
> > > >>> access and verify codes were removed.  What were
> > > >>> they replaced with, if
> > > >>> anything?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thursday 16 December 2004 08:01 pm, Kevin
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Toppenberg wrote:
> > > >>> > Found the answer (in the fine manual)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > You have to go into: TIU IRM MAINTENANCE MENU,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> then
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > into TIU SET-UP MENU, then TIU BASIC PARAMETER
> > > >>>
> > > >>> EDIT.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > And there you select your institution and then
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "YES"
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > to "ENABLE ELECTRONIC SIGNITURE"
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > And hallajah, it now works.  :-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Kevin
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > --- "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> > > >>>
> > > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > wrote:
> > > >>> > > Kevin, pure guesses, but did you give your
> > > >>>
> > > >>> providers
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > the ORES key for doc.
> > > >>> > > The description of the key is:
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > This key is given to users that are authorized
> > > >>>
> > > >>> to
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > write orders in the chart.
> > > >>> > > Users with this key can verify with their
> > > >>>
> > > >>> electronic
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > signature patient
> > > >>> > > orders. This key is typically given to licensed
> > > >>> > > Physicians. Orders entered by
> > > >>> > > users with this key can be released to the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ancillary
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > service for immediate
> > > >>> > > action. DO NOT give users both the ORES key and
> > > >>>
> > > >>> the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > ORELSE key.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > On Thursday 16 December 2004 06:11 pm, Kevin
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Toppenberg wrote:
> > > >>> > > > I am now trying to set up my production
> > > >>>
> > > >>> system.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > I have created users, and given everyone
> > > >>>
> > > >>> mailboxes
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > (not sure if this applies).  But I can't seem
> > > >>>
> > > >>> to
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > get
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > the system working for signing progress notes.
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > I am not working with CPRS (yet).  I am trying
> > > >>>
> > > >>> to
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > get
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > everything working in the text version first.
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > I go into the text chart via option:
> > > >>> > > > OR OE/RR MENU CLINICIAN
> > > >>> > > > From there, I can type FD to find a test
> > > >>>
> > > >>> patient.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > Then type CC for Chart contents.  Then Notes
> > > >>>
> > > >>> to
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > write
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > a note.  The the note disappears because it is
> > > >>>
> > > >>> not
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > signed.  I can get it back by typing CV to
> > > >>>
> > > >>> change
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > view
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > and select "2" for "my unsigned".  The
> > > >>>
> > > >>> unsigned
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > note
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > then reappears.  I can select the note by
> > > >>>
> > > >>> typing
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > 1.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > Then I can "sign" the note by typing "sign".
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > Here is my problem.  When I try to sign, I get
> > > >>>
> > > >>> an
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > error: "Electronic signitures not yet
> > > >>>
> > > >>> enabled."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > So I went out of this chart and got to the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> User's
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > Toolbox.  There is an option for "Electronic
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Signiture
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > code Edit."  There I set up my electronic
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > signiture
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > code.  But when I go back to try to sign my
> > > >>>
> > > >>> note,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > it
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > still doesn't work.
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > I'm guessing I have to turn the entire system
> > > >>>
> > > >>> for
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > electronic signitures on.  I got this working
> > > >>>
> > > >>> on a
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > previous system, but can't remember what I did
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > now.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > It seems that unsigned charts would show up as
> > > >>>
> > > >>> a
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > > > reminder somewhere.  In my mailbox perhaps?
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > Can anyone help?
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > Thanks
> > > >>> > > > Kevin
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > >
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