Now that I've thought this through a bit more I think was confused
about TERMINAL TYPE and DEVICE TYPE. I think DEVICE TYPE is VIRTUAL
TERMINAL and that TERMINAL TYPE is C-VT102. So if the KERNEL doesn't
find the current device $I in the DEVICE file it trys to match the
current $I to DEVICES that have a DEVICE TYPE of VIRTUAL TERMINAL. If
you look at the different DEVICE TYPES I think you'll see that is a
pretty short list and you mainly use TERMINAL or VIRTUAL TERMINAL. I
think you use TERMINAL for printers also but there might be a separate
type for them, I remember TAPE and SDP types as well but I don't think
they are used much anymore.
I'm trying to explain this from memory and so what I've said might not
be exactly right but I think it's closer than my first explanation.
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:56:16 -0900, Mike Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes the Kernel looks at the $i for the device you login on. it then
> looks in the DEVICE file for a $I that matches, unless you are logging
> in from a virtual terminal like a telnet or DECserver then it looks
> for a match on the part of the $I in the DEVICE file. That's why you
> don't have to have every /dev/tty device in the DEVICE file.
>
> For instance, /dev/tty1, /dev/tty2,.../dev/tty100 can all be handled
> by one DEVICE record with a $I of /dev/tty and a terminal type of
> VIRTUAL TERMINAL. Otherwise you would need one entry for each of
> these devices with a terminal type of C-VT102.
>
> Once the Device is Determined by the $I then the kernel checks the
> TERMINAL type to get the characteristics of that TERMINAL TYPE like,
> page width and length, how to make bold letters, how to make the font
> size change and all of the other fields in the terminal Type file.
>
> I don't know if I answered your question or danced around it, but I do
> think that the Kernel systems manual (?) is the document that you
> want, it is the big kernel manual anyway. I think it has a seperate
> section on devices and terminal types.
>
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:40 -0800 (PST), Kevin Toppenberg
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mike (or others),
> >
> > Do you know how devices and terminal types interact.
> > I was having a difficulty with a login from linux. I
> > included code in my .bashrc script that took a user
> > directly into vista as soon as they logged in. I got
> > an error from vista "device 0" not defined in the
> > DEVICE file.
> >
> > This makes me think that vista somehow figures out
> > what kind of device the user is connecting from, and
> > chooses a DEVICE. Then that device has a TERMINAL
> > TYPE with it. For example, there is a DEVICE type of
> > GTM-LINUX-TELNET. This is TYPE=VIRTUAL TERMINAL, and
> > SUBTYPE=C-VT132.
> >
> > When I print from Fileman, it asks me DEVICE. If I
> > just press enter here, it defaults to TELNET.
> >
> > I wonder which manual would document this stuff.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> > P.S. What you said below is true. I posted that it
> > wasn't asking me for my terminal type. But If I exit
> > GTM and then re-log on later, it does ask.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --- Mike Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Kevin,
> > >
> > > I haven't looked at this for a long time but as I
> > > recall there was
> > > some code in XUS to query for the terminal type. If
> > > it got back
> > > something it recognized it set the terminal and that
> > > was that. If you
> > > want to change it to a particular type once you have
> > > logged in I think
> > > you can go to user toolbox and select a terminal
> > > type. I think it
> > > will remember what you typed in there as long as you
> > > stay logged on.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:45:21 -0800 (PST), Kevin
> > > Toppenberg
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > One quick additional note:
> > > >
> > > > I edited my user such that ASK DEVICE TYPE AT
> > > SIGN-ON
> > > > was set to ASK. I halted, killed DUZ, logged back
> > > in
> > > > with do ^ZU, and the system never asked me what
> > > device
> > > > type I wanted.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey All,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am confused about display types. My ultimate
> > > goal
> > > > > is to get to text version of CPRS (i.e. menu
> > > option
> > > > > OR
> > > > > OE/RR MENU CLINICIAN) to display bigger than it
> > > > > currently is.
> > > > >
> > > > > I got to the User's Toolbox, and select, Edit
> > > User's
> > > > > Characteristics. It asks me for Select TERMINAL
> > > > > TYPE
> > > > > NAME. But for some reason, I don't have access
> > > to
> > > > > all
> > > > > the Terminal Types. For example, in this edited
> > > > > screen log I have only 14 options for terminal
> > > type
> > > > > c-*
> > > > >
> > > > > Select TERMINAL TYPE NAME: C-VT320// C-
> > > > > 1 C-DATATREE DataTree Terminal
> > > > > 2 C-OTHER general 'dumb' video
> > > terminal
> > > > > 3 C-QUME Qume video terminal
> > > > > (configured
> > > > > as 'QVT-102')
> > > > > 4 C-QUME103 QUME QVT-103
> > > > > 5 C-TATUNG TATUNG ET10
> > > > > 6 C-VT100 Digital Equipment
> > > Corporation
> > > > > VT-100 video
> > > > > 7 C-VT100HIGH Normal display of
> > > characters
> > > > > in
> > > > > BOLD !
> > > > > 8 C-VT102 DEC VT102 Terminal with
> > > > > Advanced
> > > > > Options
> > > > > 9 C-VT220 Digital Equipment
> > > Corporation
> > > > > VT-220 terminal
> > > > > 10 C-VT320 Digital Equipment
> > > Corporation
> > > > > VT-320 video
> > > > > 11 C-VT320 PC Digital Equipment
> > > Corporation
> > > > > VT-320 video
> > > > > 12 C-VT320/132 Digital Equipment
> > > Corporation
> > > > > VT-320 video
> > > > > 13 C-WYSE 75 Wyse 75 terminal
> > > > > 14 C-WYSE 85 Wyse 85 terminal
> > > > > CHOOSE 1-14:
> > > > >
> > > > > Select TERMINAL TYPE NAME: C-VT320//
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But, if I look in the TERMINAL TYPE file itself,
> > > I
> > > > > find that there are 41 options (C- subset)...
> > > One of
> > > > > which is a 132 column terminal (C-Dec132) I
> > > would
> > > > > like
> > > > > to use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is an edited screen log showing the 41
> > > options:
> > > > >
> > > > > INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// terminal type
> > > > > (188
> > > > > entries)
> > > > > EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL//
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Select TERMINAL TYPE NAME: C-
> > > > > 1 C-3101
> > > > > 2 C-ADDS ADDS video terminal
> > > > > 3 C-ADM3 Lear-Siegler ('dumb') video
> > > > > 4 C-DATAMEDIA DataMedia video
> > > > > 5 C-DATATREE DataTree Terminal
> > > > > 6 C-DEC general Digital Equipment
> > > > > Corporation video
> > > > > 7 C-DEC132 Digital Equipment Corporation
> > > > > video
> > > > > with 132 columns
> > > > > 8 C-FALCO Falco fame 12
> > > > > 9 C-H1500 Hazeltine 1500 video
> > > > > 10 C-HINQLINK USE C-MINIOUT-xxx
> > > > > 11 C-HP110 Hewlett-Packard Video
> > > (HP-110)
> > > > > with
> > > > > 16 lines
> > > > > 12 C-HP2621 Hewlett-Packard video
> > > > > 13 C-LINK CPU to CPU link
> > > > > 14 C-MINIOUT-DSM Mini Engine for DSM-11
> > > > > 15 C-MINIOUT-M11P Mini Engine for M/11+
> > > > > 16 C-MINIOUT-MSM IDCU for MSM
> > > > > 17 C-MINIOUT-MSQ Mini Engine for M/SQL
> > > > > 18 C-MINIOUT-MVX Mini Engine for M/VX
> > > > > 19 C-MINIOUT-VXD Mini Engine for VAX DSM
> > > > > 20 C-OTHER general 'dumb' video terminal
> > > > > 21 C-PE550 Perkin-Elmer video
> > > > > 22 C-Q103 QUME QVT-103
> > > > > 23 C-QUME Qume video terminal
> > > (configured
> > > > > as
> > > > > 'QVT-102')
> > > > > 24 C-QUME103 QUME QVT-103
> > > > > 25 C-TATUNG TATUNG ET10
> > > > > 26 C-TELERAY Teleray model 10
> > > > > 27 C-TELEVIDEO Televideo video terminal
> > > > > 28 C-VT100 Digital Equipment Corporation
> > > > > VT-100 video
> > > > > 29 C-VT100HIGH Normal display of characters
> > > in
> > > > > BOLD !
> > > > > 30 C-VT101W
> > > > > 31 C-VT102 DEC VT102 Terminal with
> > > Advanced
> > > > > Options
> > > > > 32 C-VT132 Digital Equipment Corporation
> > > > > VT-100 with 132 columns
> > > > > 33 C-VT220 Digital Equipment Corporation
> > > > > VT-220 terminal
> > > > > 34 C-VT320 Digital Equipment Corporation
> > > > > VT-320 video
> > > > > 35 C-VT320 PC Digital Equipment Corporation
> > > > > VT-320 video
> > > > > 36 C-VT320/132 Digital Equipment Corporation
> > > > > VT-320 video
> > > > > 37 C-VT52 DEC VT-52 video
> > > > > 38 C-VXD-MINIOUT
> > > > > 39 C-WANG WANG TERMINAL
> > > > > 40 C-WYSE 75 Wyse 75 terminal
> > > > > 41 C-WYSE 85 Wyse 85 terminal
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To further add to my confusion, when I do an
> > > INQUIRE
> > > > > in file 200 for my entry, I see an entry for
> > > > > TERMINAL
> > > > > TYPE LAST USED: C-VT3200. I though I could edit
> > > > > this
> > > > > to entry to be the terminal type I want. But I
> > > > > can't
> > > > > figure out which field this is...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: 200 NEW PERSON
> > > > > (28
> > > > > entries)
> > > > > Select NEW PERSON NAME: kt TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
> > > > > kt
> > > > > PHYSICIAN
> > > > > ANOTHER ONE:
> > > > > STANDARD CAPTIONED OUTPUT? Yes// (Yes)
> > > > > Include COMPUTED fields: (N/Y/R/B): NO// b
> > > BOTH
> > > > > Computed Fields and Record Number (IEN)
> > > > >
> > >
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