Kevin;

Who wants to extend Fileman?  WorldVistA is interested in doing that and
more.   We are interested in re-engineering and modernizing Fileman and
Kernel.   WorldVista is interested in helping to improve and advance the
technology, modernizing the architecture to improve the reusability,
functionality, and speed of the whole emerging VistA technology.

    Best wishes;   Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Template Question


> I have read of others making changes to Fileman and
> submitting them to the VA, only to have them shelved
> because FM is in a stasis state right now.
>
> Would it be worth it for the community to extend
> Fileman outside of the VA?
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> > As I understand it, there is frustration from some
> > developers in the VA
> > because the VA has long ago chosen to put these
> > infrastructure
> > components on maintenance.  For instance, the last
> > FM release was v22 in
> > the mid-90s.  While some patches add new
> > functionality, these are not
> > typically the source of large changes. So, yes,
> > there are some things
> > that many would like to see addressed in FM, but
> > that isn't the
> > direction the VA is going. I am not arguing for or
> > against the current
> > status quo, just pointing out factors that might
> > explain partially why
> > things are as they are.
> >
> > >Kevi
> > >
> > >--- Greg Kreis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>This is a good example of the danger of multiples
> > in
> > >>FM. They can create
> > >>non-normalized databases, forcing folks to stand
> > on
> > >>their head to get
> > >>some results.  It is much easier, when reporting,
> > to
> > >>deal with files
> > >>that have pointers that link the records.  Having
> > >>said that, these
> > >>pointed files can be a pain in templates for
> > >>editing.
> > >>
> > >>Bob Beckley wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Greg,
> > >>>
> > >>>I finally ended up with this, and it seems to do
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>the trick when I tie it to
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>a print-type menu option.  I want to report just
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>instances of where one
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>sub-field equals another sub-sub-field.  Any
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>additional comments are
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>certainly welcome.
> > >>>
> > >>>TST>D Q^DI
> > >>>
> > >>>VA FileMan 22.0
> > >>>
> > >>>Select OPTION: PRINT FILE ENTRIES
> > >>>
> > >>>OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: PRINT TEMPLATE// 458  TIME
> > &
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>ATTENDANCE RECORDS
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>                                         (281
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>entries)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>SORT BY: PAY PERIOD//
> > >>>START WITH PAY PERIOD: FIRST// 04-12
> > >>>GO TO PAY PERIOD: LAST// 04-12
> > >>> WITHIN PAY PERIOD, SORT BY: 1  EMPLOYEE
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>(multiple)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> EMPLOYEE SUB-FIELD: 10  DAY #  (multiple)
> > >>> DAY # SUB-FIELD: APP. SUPERVISOR=TIMEKEEPER
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>POSTING
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>   WITHIN APP. SUPERVISOR=TIMEKEEPER POSTING,
> > SORT
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>BY:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>STORE IN 'SORT' TEMPLATE: ZZBBSEARCH1
> > >>> Are you adding 'ZZBBSEARCH1' as a new SORT
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>TEMPLATE? No// Y  (Yes)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>DESCRIPTION:
> > >>> No existing text
> > >>> Edit? NO// YES
> > >>>
> > >>>==[ WRAP ]==[ INSERT ]=============< DESCRIPTION
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>===========[ <PF1>H=Help ]====
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>Search template for APP. SUPERVISOR = TIMEKEEPER
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>POSTING fields in T&A
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>file.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
>
>><=======T=======T=======T=======T=======T=======T=======T=======T=======T>
==
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>====
> > >>>
> > >>>SHOULD TEMPLATE USER BE ASKED 'FROM'-'TO' RANGE
> > FOR
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>'PAY PERIOD'? NO// y
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>YES
> > >>>FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  PAY PERIOD
> > >>>THEN PRINT FIELD: 1  EMPLOYEE  (multiple)
> > >>> THEN PRINT EMPLOYEE SUB-FIELD: 2  APP.
> > SUPERVISOR
> > >>> THEN PRINT EMPLOYEE SUB-FIELD: 10  DAY #
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>(multiple)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>   THEN PRINT DAY # SUB-FIELD: 102  TIMEKEEPER
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>POSTING
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>   THEN PRINT DAY # SUB-FIELD:
> > >>> THEN PRINT EMPLOYEE SUB-FIELD:
> > >>>THEN PRINT FIELD:
> > >>>Heading: TIME & ATTENDANCE RECORDS LIST  Replace
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>... With T&A Check
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Replace
> > >>>  T&A Check
> > >>>STORE PRINT LOGIC IN TEMPLATE: ZZBBPRINT1
> > >>> Are you adding 'ZZBBPRINT1' as a new PRINT
> >
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>
>
>
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