The use of "^" as a lock is a neat programmer trick to enforce security on a field. It can't be stored in #200 because it will alter the number of pieces in the node (since it is the delimiter, as Kevin noted). It can't even be entered as a lock character through the normal FM field edit functions because it is the "abort" character when entered at a prompt. And even if you set it into your own DUZ(0), FileMan doesn't honor it. The only way to create it is for a programmer to Set it. Of course a programmer could Kill it or change it but that might have unintended consequences. I suspect that there is a considerable amount of processing associated with entering a provider that is hard coded into the routines and a decision was made that it should not be bypassed no matter what the security level of the user. If that is the case, altering ^DD(2,.104,9) would let you use the field through FM but might cause data integrity issues down the road. It would be nice if the Input Transform, the Triggers and all of the other cross references in the DD covered every business rule associated with a field but that is not the case. Some of the rules are so complex and so dependant on the data entry situation that whole sets of routines are required to carry out the appropriate data updates and linkages.
tjh -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Richardson Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:34 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of "^" ? Stephen; Then that sounds like the loading of this field is programatic (data loaded at the time of the action being recorded) and doesn't use Fileman to Fill the field. That would keep most users (except for programmers) from changing the data. Interesting business rule. I see the value of it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven mcphelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of "^" ? > If a field is write protected with the "^" then no DUZ(0) will allow you to > edit that field using Fileman enter/edit. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of "^" ? > > > > Maybe it is because you don't have a patient who has been admitted! Note > that > > it says inpatient below. > > > > On Sunday 13 February 2005 09:18 pm, Nancy Anthracite wrote: > > > I noted that only active providers are allowed, so do your docs have the > > > PROVIDER key and the only thing I could see that might have to do with > that > > > and show activity was the PERSON CLASS, in file 200, which has an > > > expiration date which I believe you can leave blank. Do your docs have > a > > > person class of physician or one of those variants? > > > > > > 2,.104 PROVIDER .104;1 POINTER TO NEW PERSON FILE > > > (#200) > > > > > > INPUT TRANSFORM: S DIC("S")="I $$SCREEN^DGPMDD(Y,DA,DT)" > D > > > ^DIC K DIC S DIC=DIE,X=+Y K:Y<0 X > > > LAST EDITED: DEC 07, 1994 > > > HELP-PROMPT: The provider currently assigned to this > > > inpatient applicant. > > > DESCRIPTION: From the available listing select the > > > provider who is currently treating this patient. > > > > > > SCREEN: S DIC("S")="I $$SCREEN^DGPMDD(Y,DA,DT)" > > > EXPLANATION: Allow only active providers. > > > EXECUTABLE HELP: D HELP^DGPMDD(DA,DT) > > > CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^APR > > > 1)= S ^DPT("APR",$E(X,1,30),DA)="" > > > 2)= K ^DPT("APR",$E(X,1,30),DA) > > > > > > On Sunday 13 February 2005 08:26 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > > > I also thought @ was a master access setting. But > > > > here is a screen log of what I am seeing. > > > > > > > > > > > > GTM>zwr DUZ > > > > DUZ=90 > > > > DUZ(0)="@" > > > > DUZ(1)="" > > > > DUZ(2)=69 > > > > DUZ("AG")="O" > > > > DUZ("AUTO")=1 > > > > DUZ("BUF")=1 > > > > DUZ("LANG")=1 > > > > > > > > GTM>d ^XUP > > > > > > > > Setting up programmer environment > > > > Terminal Type set to: C-VT102 > > > > > > > > Select OPTION NAME: diedit > > > > > > > > INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// 2 PATIENT (69454 > > > > entries) > > > > EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// Provider?? > > > > EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// .104?? > > > > EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// .1041?? > > > > EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there something else wrong that I am doing? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Marianne Susaanti Follingstad > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Actually, the @ is a superaccess that should be > > > > > sufficient for any situation, no matter what > > > > > the file DD, read, write, delete access code is. In > > > > > other words, you should not have any > > > > > difficulty doing anything in any file. Are you > > > > > having difficulty or are you just > > > > > anticipating having difficult, in which case go > > > > > ahead and try it first. You should not even > > > > > have to change DUZ(0). > > > > > > > > > > Marianne Follingstad > > > > > > > > > > Greg Woodhouse wrote: > > > > > > As you might guess, that's a trick that is > > > > > > > > > > sometimes employed to > > > > > > > > > > > discourage unauthorized "fiddling" with sensitive > > > > > > > > > > files. Off the top of > > > > > > > > > > > my head, I'm not sure if Fileman will complain if > > > > > > > > > > you set DUZ(0) > > > > > > > > > > > programmatically to "^" before attempting an > > > > > > > > > > update, but I believe this > > > > > > > > > > > will work. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to edit fields .104 (PROVIDER) and .1041 > > > > > > > (ATTENDING PHYSICIAN) in file 2 (PATIENT file). > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > have a fileman code of "@" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the data dictionary, these two fields have a > > > > > > > > > > code > > > > > > > > > > > > of ^ required. I assume this means that my > > > > > > > > > > DUZ(0) > > > > > > > > > > > > must contain a ^. This is normally loaded (I > > > > > > > > > > believe) > > > > > > > > > > > > from field 3 FILE MANAGER ACCESS CODE in file > > > > > > > > > > 200 (NEW > > > > > > > > > > > > PERSON file). This is stored in piece 4 of node > > > > > > > > > > 0. > > > > > > > > > > > > But how would a ^ character be stored, when the > > > > > > > > > > ^ > > > > > > > > > > > > character is used as the pieces divider? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I am coming at this the wrong way. All > > > > > > > > > > I want > > > > > > > > > > > > it do is have the attending physician be > > > > > > > > > > properly > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed in CPRS for a given physician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. 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