What data should such a stub contain?

Kevin


--- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> After a "merge" of patient data, a "stub" is left
> behind.
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Marianne
> Susaanti Follingstad
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman drop-out on
> pointer update
> 
>  
> 
> What then do you suggest?  In this case, NOT having
> the $G is what created
> the situation of NOT having a ^DPT entry that is
> pointed to.  In other
> words, if the $G had been there, the data would have
> updated correctly and
> avoided the data integrity problem that now exists. 
> There has to be better
> ways to detect missing or corrupt data than having
> an application crash,
> which risks further corruption of more data. 
> 
> I'm curious as to what the VA does for duplicate
> records; anyone know?  If
> there is a merge capability or deletion and
> repointing of duplicates and it
> uses the standard FileMan functionality, then it too
> could have the same
> issue. 
> 
> In this instance, the file on which things blew was
> an IHS Patient file, so
> maybe the VA avoided such pitfalls.  It is
> interesting to note that the SCR
> node (which is meant to screen entries) is also
> being used here to display
> info, which does not seem like a great idea;
> however, there could still be
> valid reasons to need to look at info in a pointed
> to file during a
> screening. 
> 
> Marianne 
> 
> James Gray wrote: 
> 
> One could argue that it is not fine to put the $G
> there.  There should never
> be a case in a good database that ^AUPNPAT(Y,0)
> exists and ^DPT(Y,0) does
> not exist.  If that happens something is wrong in
> your database and it needs
> to be cleaned up.  I have seen ^AUPNPAT(Y,0) nodes
> exist when the
> corresponding ^DPT(Y,0) nodes did not exist on a
> system running Cache just
> for the record.  If you put the $G in you may never
> know that you have a bad
> node and who knows what else that bad node may do? 
> I would suggest not
> putting in the $G. Jim Gray  
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: Marianne <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Susaanti Follingstad
> 
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:08 AM
> 
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman drop-out on
> pointer update
> 
>  It should be fine to put the $G in there.  There
> can't be any unforeseen
> consequences to having it there.  In fact, as you
> found, there are
> unforeseen consequences to NOT having it there.  As
> I mentioned, it would be
> good to have someone review these SCR nodes to see
> if there are any other
> potential problems. 
> 
> Marianne Follingstad 
> 301 251 0139 
> 
> Kevin Toppenberg wrote: 
> 
> Marianne, 
> 
> Thanks for your help. 
> 
> Following your instructions: 
> GTM>zwr ^AUPNPAT(0) 
> ^AUPNPAT(0)="PATIENT/IHS^9000001sIP^14861^1510" 
> 
> GTM>zwr ^DD(9000001,0,"SCR") 
> ^DD(9000001,0,"SCR")="X ""I '$P(^DPT(Y,0),U,19)"" W 
> $E(^AUPNPAT(Y,0),0)" 
>   
> 
> So you are right.  This is the source of the line
> that 
> caused the drop-out. 
> 
> I had suggested: It looks like the "^DPT(Y,0)" ought
> 
> to be "$G(^DPT(Y,0))" 
> 
> So I could put that change here.  But I'm note sure
> if 
> that would have other unforseen consequenses. 
> 
> Is this really a 'bug'?  Or is it one of those funny
> 
> database-needs-to-be-rundown type situations? 
> 
> Thanks 
> Kevin 
> 
> --- Marianne Susaanti Follingstad 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> > A quick look at the DI* routines I have (which are
> 
> > old), leads me to suggest that 
> > you look at the DD for the file defining ^AUPNPAT.
> 
> > Look at ^AUPNPAT(0) to find the 
> > file number and then look at ^DD(file 
> > number,0,"SCR") and I'm guessing you'll find 
> > the culprit there as "I '$P(^DPT(Y,0),U,19)".  If 
> > that is the problem then someone 
> > should review the "SCR" nodes to ensure there are
> no 
> > similar problems lurking... 
> > 
> > Of course the other problem is how to restart the 
> > process, and unfortunately I don't 
> > have any suggestions on that issue. 
> > 
> > Marianne Follingstad 
> > 301 251 0139 
> > 
> > Kevin Toppenberg wrote: 
> > 
> > > I had two patients that were duplicates--i.e.
> the 
> > same 
> > >  person, but with two different married names. 
> > > 
> > > So I deleted one, and told fileman to change all
> 
> > > pointers from the former to the later. 
> > > 
> > > (I had to take off a guard to do this) 
> > > 
> > > It then scans through all the appropriate places
> 
> > and 
> > > changes the pointers. 
> > > 
> > > But then it drops out after about 20-30 files. 
> I 
> > > never knew what was happening before, but I have
> 
> > > recently studied a bit on GTM debugging 
> > techniques, 
> > > and here is what I have come up with: 
> > > 
> > > Screen log: 
> > > 
> > > ROES ELIGIBILITY CONFIRMATION entries whose 
> > 'PATIENT' 
> > > pointers have been changed 
> > >                                               
> MAR 
> > > 29,2005  20:12    PAGE 1 
> > > 
> > 
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---- 
> > > 
> > >           *** NO RECORDS TO PRINT *** 
> > > GTM>w $ECODE                  <---- notice 
> > drop-out 
> > > ,M7,Z150372994, 
> > > GTM>w $ZSTATUS 
> > > 150372994,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-GVUNDEF, Global 
> > variable 
> > > undefined: ^DPT(75002,0) 
> > > GTM>zprint SCR+1^DIO2 
> > >         X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1)) 
> 
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