I think we pretty much agree with you across the board, and we are trying to correct those problems, but there are only just so many hours in the day and not that many of us that can afford the time to do this out of the goodness of our hearts! The funding that is starting to appear in the form of the funding for the documentation and installation of VistA-Office and for the Hui project will be helping to put some people to work correcting these problems full time. The documents on the Wiki and the Hardhats web sites are the contributions of people trying to help with the documentation to span the gap between the excellent VA documentation aimed at the pros and the documentation needed by mere mortals, but MUCH more is needed.
As for he language issue, the VAs software follows the standard M, which, I believe, does not currently have the wiggle room for stuffing in bigger character sets. In any case, we will need to do something soon about Internationalization whether it is something like the solution Chris Richardson is working on for internationalization and/or the "easy to agree on" types of changes to the M standard that we have to get moving on. You did not attend the heavy duty session about Internationalization via TeamSpeak at the Boston meeting because it was in another room where the TeamSpeak server and I were not working, but there is some progress and I hope we can help you find a "Greek" solution soon so you can get moving on your project. Go out and take a walk on a nice spring day. It will help. On Wednesday 20 April 2005 01:14 am, Doctor Bones wrote: > I have been reading the comments and letters... > And, there is some wisdom I wish to Question... > Please forgive me... If I make anyone upset. > It is not my intent at all. > > In fact you can skip my entire RANT and go to my questions and non-RANT > observations. > > *RANT MODE* > > I am irked by the wisdom that no one person can set up a hospital with > ViSTA. > Not necessarily because I don't believe it is true... After having vista > use me as a punching bag for a couple of months I sort of believe it :). > However.... this... I don't think is a problem with the complexity of > the software or the system in General... > I think this is a problem with DOCUMENTATION!!! > Even the configuration stuff of Kevin's, Mark's, Nancy's, OpenHui et > all... DOESN'T REALLY EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON. Notice I didn't mention > the VA's stuff... that is coming up. > I want to know what specific fields mean... what am I entering... why > isn't it allowing me to enter a specific field. > What combination of field entries will do the thing I want. > The VA documentation though quite hefty by page count... assumes either > you already know how everything works (and is not cross referenced BTW), > OR is so sparse that it tantalizes you like a smile from a beautiful > woman as she passes you on the train (... or man.. I guess...actually my > original analogy was rather crude... you should be happy). > > There seems to be no rhyme or reason (that I can find... again I am > probably looking in the wrong places) as to which order the > documentation should be read or what you can get out of them... > There are times I will simply open up a document at random to see what > is going on. > > EVEN MEDICINE..... was not like this to study.... > > *** RANT MODE OFF *** > > Now... that is done.... deep breath....sigh.... > > Some things that I would like to know... > What was done to make the Egyptian Vista system > What was done in Finland (thank you Hellevi :) or in Germany or in > India... > What would it take to get an entire hospital rollout > documented.... from admissions to payroll to something that starts with > a Z > What difficulties has Mr. Self gotten into putting Davis on the > Vista > What is up with the IHS and is this like a Catholic/Protestant > split or can we all just get along? And maybe even share code? > > What about GPLing whatever changes we make to VistA? > > What order should I do things? Which documentation comes first > and which comes last.... Which packages come first... etc... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ok and now a song...... > Dave... would you like me to sing you a song? > No Hal. > oh. > > Once again, I am sorry to have offended > Mano > > P.S. I think VistA is one of the coolest packages out there... I would > really like it to get used by ... well everyone. > P.P.S. I think there is a lot... A LOT... of experience and talent on > this list... I really wish that dumb questions where a little more > clearly documented... so I wouldn't have to ask them more than 3 times. > P.P.S. I am trying to Document what I am doing... but it is really > difficult, when you have NO EARTHLY CLUE exactly what it is that you are > doing :) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. > Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in > creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime > info, new features, or free trial, at: > http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 > _______________________________________________ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. 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