>From ANSI/MDC X11.1-1995

     ! causes a new line operation on the current device.  Its effect is

     the equivalent of writing CR LF on a pure ASCII device.  In
addition,
     $X is set to 0 and 1 is added to $Y.

Also:

     Output operations, except when the form of the argument is
*intexpr, 
     are affected by the Character Set Profile output-transform.

I'm not entirely sure what that latter statement means but I suspect
that it means when you write *13,*10 you do not get the same results as
writing !.

And with regard to the first statement, note that it says "equivalent".
The actions taken may be different when writing to a Unix/Linux host
file than when writing to a VT-xxx terminal.  

   tjh

-----Original Message-----
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Forrey
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 3:35 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does W ! flush an output buffer?

Remember that the use of the U <device ID> prior to the W command 
controls the effect of the "!" or control character written. Then you
must 
switch back to explicitly control several IO devices.


On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:

> Maury,
>
> This was the problem.  Apparently with M sees a !, it
> automatically resets $X, but writing a $char(13)
> doesn't.  This seems kind of an odd mechanism.
>
> I was switching back and forth between writing files
> out to a file and writing the progress on the screen.
> It seems that there is only ONE $X, not one each for
> the file and another for the screen.  So I had to make
> the switch between states just after a ! had been
> written to the file.
>
> Thanks for the help.  Also, I hadn't known that write
> *x is the same as write $char(x).  So I learn
> something every day...  :-)
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
>
> --- Maury Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> It would help to to know what your code looks like
>> and exactly what you want the output to look like,
>> but let me offer a couple of thoughts:
>>
>> 1.  If you are using the ? tab format character, you
>> need to let GTM know the position of the cursor.
>> Using ! sets $X to 0.  An escape sequence might set
>> $X depending on how it is issued.  I don't know
>> about GTM, but other M's let you set $X directly.
>> So just insert:
>> S $X=0 following the W *13  or $C(13).
>>
>> 2.  Most systems provide a way to define line
>> length.  This can be used to automatically wrap long
>> lines.  Common values are 80 and 132.  Generally,
>> there's a way to turn this off or disable it by
>> setting the line length to 0.  It looks like some of
>> your lines are wrapping so you are probably having
>> this problem.  Again, the solution is to S $X=0 if
>> GTM allows that and/or disable line wrapping.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Hardhats Sourceforge"
>> <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:47 PM
>> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Does W ! flush an output
>> buffer?
>>
>>
>>> I am in the middle of writing a function to display
>> a
>>> progress bar.
>>>
>>> I want the bar to stay on one line, so at the end
>> of
>>> each line, I need to do something to get back to
>> the
>>> beginning of line.
>>>
>>> My first approach was to write the line, then
>> write a
>>> $char(13) to go back to the beginning of the line,
>>> ready for the next refresh.
>>>
>>> But this gave very odd output, like this:
>>>
>>> Lets begin...
>>> Progress:
>>>
>> 94%--------------------------------------------->||
>>> Progress: 89%------------------------>|--|
>>> Progress:
>>> 84%-------------------------------------->|---
>>> Progress:
>>> 74%----------------------------------->|---------|
>>> Progress: 69%--------------------|-----------|
>>> Progress:
>> 64%----------------------------->|--------
>>> Progress:
>>> 59%-------------------------->|------------------|
>>> Progress: 49%------------------------------------|
>>> Progress: 44%------------------->|--------------
>>> Progress:
>>> 39%----------------->|---------------------------|
>>> Progress:
>> 29%----------------------------------------|
>>> Progress: 24%---------->|-------------------
>>> Progress:
>>> 19%-------->|------------------------------------|
>>> Progress:
>>> 9%---->|--------------------------------------|
>>> Progress:  4%->|------------------------
>>> -------------------|
>>> All done!...
>>>
>>>
>>> But if, instead, I write a !, and then issue an
>> escape
>>> sequence to move the cursor up one line, it works
>>> perfectly.
>>>
>>> It acts like it drops characters unless I write a
>> !
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what is going on?
>>> thanks
>>> Kevn
>>>
>>>
>>> GTM>
>>>
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