I believe we need to drive for the requirements first.  What is the
"intent" or the target audience of VivA?  Is it as a method for easy
installation that leads to production use, or easy instance that leads
to demonstration?

With the former, building a RPM or installable package is a favorable
route.  With the latter, then the puppy or Live CD route seems logical.

I'm a Fedora/Gentoo/FreeBSD person (and SUSE again once they release the
community version), so you'll be hard pressed to support each and every
single one of those on the get-go.  It may be easier to build out the
Semi version in this scenario.

For the doctor that doesn't know much about VistA (but a little bit
about Windows and a little bit more about linux), then I think the Live
CD or "demo on demand" system should work well.  If you then opt to go
with an install on your favorite distro, is that where Semi does its
thang?


/David.
 
David Sommers, Architect  |  Dialog Medical

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I assume your basic goal is to come up with something like a turn key  
solution. Is that a fair assumption? Going back to the network effect  
message, I don't know that marrying your solution to Debian, Knoppix,  
Red Hat, or what have you is the right way to go. It will be easier  
to get user "buy in" if the users feel they can use their favorite  
Linux distribution (or, while we're at it: What about Solaris, HP/UX,  
OS X, (Free|Open|Net)BSD, OpenDarwin, OpenVMS, or even Windows)?
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On Aug 30, 2005, at 6:16 PM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:

> Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA.
>
> I have thus far used Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index- 
> en.html)
> as the basis for OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold releases, and Morphix
> (http://morphix.org) as the basis for OpenVistA VivA releases.  The
> former releases are live DVD images that amount to just under 1GB, and
> the latter are live CD images.
>
> Morphix is not under as active development as I would like in a base
> Linux live CD, so I think it's time to move on.
>
> Effective V4, Knoppix has expanded to over 3GB.  Creating OpenVistA  
> VivA
> releases based on Knoppix V4 would mean releases of over 3.5GB - they
> would still fit on a DVD, but the download durations would more than
> triple.  But, an OpenVistA VivA based on Knoppix would have much  
> visual
> appeal, and would show Linux in favorable light.  [Also, since ftp is
> unreliable for files of more than 2GB, one would have to use wget or
> rsync to get the files - of course, this is not really an issue.]
>
> At the other extreme, is Damn Small Linux (http://damnsmalllinux.org).
> Sans VistA, this distribution is small enough to fit onto a business
> card sized CD.  With VistA, the download would be around 220MB.  An
> OpenVistA VivA based on DSL would be small, fast and functional.
>
> There are many other Linux live CDs between these two extremes.
>
> So, what would the members of the VistA community like?  I can  
> continue
> the current strategy of keeping OpenVistA VivA to a live CD and  
> staying
> with Knoppix for OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold live DVD releases.  I can  
> use
> a single base system, and I can stay small or go with the kitchen
> sink.
>
> Also, how about the forthcoming (once CMS releases the software)
> OpenVistA VivA Office EHR?
>
> Please let me know what you want, so that I can serve you better  
> (yes, I
> know that ultimately I will do what I think is best, but I really will
> consider all inputs).  Thank you very much.
>
> -- Bhaskar
>
>
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