David -- Thank you for your comments.
The intent especially with OpenVistA VivA and to a lesser extent with OpenVistA SemiVivA is to create a "60 seconds to a running VistA system" ability to demonstrate VistA. A second intent is to make it easy to install a VistA system (with Linux as well as without, since not everyone has Linux installed) on a PC for production use. -- Bhaskar On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 00:42 -0500, David Sommers wrote: > I believe we need to drive for the requirements first. What is the > "intent" or the target audience of VivA? Is it as a method for easy > installation that leads to production use, or easy instance that > leads > to demonstration? > > With the former, building a RPM or installable package is a favorable > route. With the latter, then the puppy or Live CD route seems > logical. > > I'm a Fedora/Gentoo/FreeBSD person (and SUSE again once they release > the > community version), so you'll be hard pressed to support each and > every > single one of those on the get-go. It may be easier to build out the > Semi version in this scenario. > > For the doctor that doesn't know much about VistA (but a little bit > about Windows and a little bit more about linux), then I think the > Live > CD or "demo on demand" system should work well. If you then opt to > go > with an install on your favorite distro, is that where Semi does its > thang? > > > /David. > > David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Gregory Woodhouse > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:29 AM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA > > I assume your basic goal is to come up with something like a turn > key > solution. Is that a fair assumption? Going back to the network > effect > message, I don't know that marrying your solution to Debian, > Knoppix, > Red Hat, or what have you is the right way to go. It will be easier > to get user "buy in" if the users feel they can use their favorite > Linux distribution (or, while we're at it: What about Solaris, > HP/UX, > OS X, (Free|Open|Net)BSD, OpenDarwin, OpenVMS, or even Windows)? > === > Gregory Woodhouse > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his > forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli > > > > On Aug 30, 2005, at 6:16 PM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > > > Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA > VivA. > > > > I have thus far used Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index- > > en.html) > > as the basis for OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold releases, and Morphix > > (http://morphix.org) as the basis for OpenVistA VivA releases. The > > former releases are live DVD images that amount to just under 1GB, > and > > the latter are live CD images. > > > > Morphix is not under as active development as I would like in a > base > > Linux live CD, so I think it's time to move on. > > > > Effective V4, Knoppix has expanded to over 3GB. Creating > OpenVistA > > VivA > > releases based on Knoppix V4 would mean releases of over 3.5GB - > they > > would still fit on a DVD, but the download durations would more > than > > triple. But, an OpenVistA VivA based on Knoppix would have much > > visual > > appeal, and would show Linux in favorable light. [Also, since ftp > is > > unreliable for files of more than 2GB, one would have to use wget > or > > rsync to get the files - of course, this is not really an issue.] > > > > At the other extreme, is Damn Small Linux > (http://damnsmalllinux.org). > > Sans VistA, this distribution is small enough to fit onto a > business > > card sized CD. With VistA, the download would be around 220MB. An > > OpenVistA VivA based on DSL would be small, fast and functional. > > > > There are many other Linux live CDs between these two extremes. > > > > So, what would the members of the VistA community like? I can > > continue > > the current strategy of keeping OpenVistA VivA to a live CD and > > staying > > with Knoppix for OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold live DVD releases. I > can > > use > > a single base system, and I can stay small or go with the kitchen > > sink. > > > > Also, how about the forthcoming (once CMS releases the software) > > OpenVistA VivA Office EHR? > > > > Please let me know what you want, so that I can serve you better > > (yes, I > > know that ultimately I will do what I think is best, but I really > will > > consider all inputs). Thank you very much. > > > > -- Bhaskar > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle > > Practices > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * > > Testing & QA > > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/ > > bsce5sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle > Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing > & > QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle > Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing > & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf _______________________________________________ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
