Right, Gary. I agree with you and Russ. I was just giving an example of one way to tell the oil cartels to take a hike.

Jeff

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Udstrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:56 PM
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Ethanol is a boondoggle.  It has been demonstrated that it takes more
fossil fuel is used to create Ethanol than it provides in return.
Ethanol programs are nothing more that governments subsidies for ADM.

-Gary



jeff.lane said the following on 8/17/2005 3:43 PM:

Hell, we can grow ethanol. Read the stars, guys, we are getting
screwed! The oil companies have been crying for years that oil prices
are way behind inflation. I say, so what! I thought the idea was to
keep inflation down in the first place. The Government needs to
include fuel and food in the inflation indicators. Of course, if they
do prime interest rates would be at 50% or more by now!

We have plenty of alternatives to gas and battery....so why not use
them? We all know why. I think if this keeps up, and I see no reason
for it not too(with the oil companies' and Arab greed....can you say
jihad in disguise), we will see a flood of small companies offering
conversions to anything from chicken manure to corn flakes.

BTW. Our new piece of crap Governor just signed a 9.5 cent increase in
our state gas taxes......highest in the US......again! OH......$6.00
per carton increase for cigarettes, $6.00 per gallon booze,
reinitiated the only estate taxes, and a whole lot more. We really
need that right now!

Sorry....had a senior moment and had to get that out. My fixed income
will go up about $2.50 a month. Chris, you're right....I will not do
math in class............................

Jeff

From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices


A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It
cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself.

Of course that tech won't ever see the light of day. :(

From: 007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed Aug 17 13:26:05 CDT 2005
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Subject: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices


The most fuel efficient cars use heavy water.

007.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fisk
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:16 PM
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote:

It's funny, though, that the gas companies are posting record profits.
So I really wonder how much of this is an increase in oil price,
and how
much is just an excuse to charge more for gasoline.


I look at it this way, assuming that a gas company wants to make 5%
profit
on every gallon of gas, it's in thier interest to have thier costs
go up
5% because then thier profit goes up too.

Instead of making 5cents on gas that costs them $1.00 to make they
make 6
cents profit on gas that cost them $1.05 to make (Or similar, you
get my
point =)


Also, the gas we have now was made with oil that cost $50/barrel
instead
of oil that cost $65/barrel, yet we're being charged the $65/barrel
price!


Christopher Fisk
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I WILL NOT DO MATH IN CLASS
I WILL NOT DO MATH IN CLASS
Lisa Simpson on chalkboard in episode BABF07

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