Personally I highly recommend the E8400, I just delivered a third
machine using one yesterday.
Mine gets the special treatment though :)
http://chryx.shacknet.nu/wolfdale4250.png
On 5 Mar 2008, at 16:23, Brian Weeden wrote:
I was looking for that quadcore and couldn't find it on Newegg, which
is weird, because it comes up at a lot of smaller dealers under
Froogle. And there is no mention of the Q9450 on Anand's site or
Tom's Hardware, which is really strange if the CPUs have been released
(or are close to release).
I'm also taking overclocking potential into mind here. I know that
there are some on the list who shy away from it but I've overclocked
every CPU I've had and always taken advantage of free CPU cycles. And
I completely agree with the methodology and risks laid out here (which
I am willing to take):
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3251&p=6
Many people are overclocking the E8400 to 4 Ghz with standard voltage
and air cooling which is a definite bonus in its book. The Q6600 does
alright and can get to 3 Ghz without too much trouble, but runs much
hotter and sucks up a ton of power. The issue with the Q9450 is that
it is multiplier locked at 8x, meaning the only way to overclock it is
to bump up the bus speed which is a much harder prospect. Also keep
in mind that the bus speed with a dualcore is essentially 1/2 the bus
speed of a dual core.
Thanks for the pointer on the mobo - you are definitely right on
with that one.
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:20 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
If you expect these new parts to be the foundation of a PC that
will last 3-4 years again (with upgrades) I would certainly look at
getting an IX38 chipset.
Also, take a look at the Q9450, gives you the best of both worlds :)
If your set on the parts you listed, your CPU choice is based on
what you run now and intend to run in the future.......if you are
going to run a lot of VMs, then the quad is almost certainly better.
VMWare (Workstation at least) limits the number of CPUs to 2 per
guest OS but this should not be an issue in anyway.
Regards,
Jason Tozer
Database Analyst
London
Ext 1131 - 3SC.5
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: 05 March 2008 15:14
To: hwg
Subject: [H] CPUs
Going to be buying the parts for a new PC next week and I'm pretty
psyched as I'm replacing an Athlon system I built 3-4 years ago and
have been upgrading piecemeal. So I've got a 3000+ Athlon 64 running
on an nForce4 mobo.
After 6 months of research I am still debating over dual core vs quad
core. I'm going to continue using my existing video card as it's
doing just fine and here's the rest of the parts list:
Mobo - Asus P5K-E/WIFI-AP
PSU - OCZ Stealthstream 600W
RAM - 2x2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
DVD - Samsung SH-S203B
Fans - 2x Scythe 120mm
So I'm debating between these two CPUs:
Q6600 Kentsfield (2.4 Ghz, Quadcore, 65nm)
E8400 Wolfsdale (3.0 Ghz, Dualcore, 45nm)
They are both within $20 in price so really it comes down to other
features. I know that the majority of programs these days don't take
advantage of more than 2 cores (except for the multimedia big boys
like Photoshop and video encoders). While I will be using the
machine
for some A/V work, that won't be a common task. More commonly it
will
be for multitasking several programs at once under Windows XP for
work
and then gaming.
The kicker is that I am getting rid of my HTPC and replacing it
with a
NAS and the Popcorn Hour settop box. The HTPC used to be my ripping,
encoding, burning, and downloading box which was nice because I could
offload those intensive (both time and horsepower) tasks to it and
not
have it slow down my main PC that I use for work and gaming. With it
going away, those tasks will now be done on my main PC. I was
envisioning perhaps running 2 or 3 VMs at once doing all these
various
tasks. Anyone see problems with that under XP and the ability for
those VMs to use separate CPUs and RAM? Or am I reaching too far and
is this something I can't do under XP? I have several work programs
that are Windows only (along with games) which are the two reasons I
haven't gone to Ubuntu.
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