I like the build quality of the haf.  Then again, I'm still using a lian li 
v2000 I've had for almost 5 years now.  

That's good advice: a good case will last you though many builds
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-----Original Message-----
From: GPL <hardwarelistrea...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:29:26 
To: <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

At the moment, I seem to be leaning towards the COOLER MASTER HAF 922.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM, maccrawj <maccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cooling wise from TT I still recommend the Armor+ VH6000BWS despite the
> price. Unlke the MX variant there is tray HDD modules at the bottom that can
> be replaced with 12/14cm fans, better than the Element there is a side 24cm
> fan *installed*. IMHO the side 24cm fan is not enough alone to keep the
> video cards card cage area cool enough, nor do the font 12cm's do a whole
> lot either.
>
> The one thing I regret about the generation Armor I bought: lack of the
> bottom HDD/fan modules. Have considered many times dremeling my case to add
> them, just too much work ATM.
>
> A con for Armor+ is they a design change from open 11 bays exposed to "7+5"
> system where the bottom 5 bays are rotated sideways into a hdd cage.
>
> Yes it's expensive, has no PSU, etc... but you grab one when they're on sale
> only because they are well worth it over <$100 cases! Surely similar great
> models exist from Cooler Master and the TT Element does look v-good IMHO
> also.
>
> Don't skimp on PSU rating or brand, go large & reputable rather than
> listening chants of "you don't need a >700W PSU".
>
>
> On 4/16/2010 8:21 AM, GPL wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the help in the past here. Most recent build was 2007 where
>> I started a similar post. You folks were helpful in building a PC that
>> I am still gaming on today, with only a video card upgrade between now
>> and then and that was due to failure after 2.5 years.
>>
>> This time around I need to start right from the chassis. Previous
>> build I just re-used a metal Chieftec tower. This time around I need a
>> whole new case because the PC in the Chieftec is going to get wiped
>> and used for my wife.
>>
>> Here's a general idea of where the plan stands. A gaming/simulation PC
>> that also does some video editing, mainly family HD recordings or
>> gaming videos. It will do flight and racing simulations and I plan on
>> doing 3 screens down the line. I've usually done Nvidia cards but this
>> time around I plan on going ATI. I have no allegiance to either card
>> company but very much want the option to run 3 screens and the ATI
>> performance will be more than enough for me.
>>
>> I'm thinking ATI 5870 right now. I'm also thinking Intel i7 930 to 950
>> range depending on cost per performance.
>>
>> FIRST STEP, I need a case!
>>
>> I don't want anything too fancy. Spending big money on the case itself
>> hurts. However I want something that gives me the room to build, and
>> if need be later easily crossfire the ATI cards, and have adequate
>> cooling. I've looked at a few.
>>
>> MY DILEMNA, I have a small open desk setup to the right of my main
>> gaming office desk. I fit my Chieftec tower in there with clearance
>> enough to keep the little keyboard tray to that desk. It fits 3 towers
>> with ease. I use it to have my gaming PC, my kids PC, and a LAB/DUMMY
>> PC. That way my legs are free of wires and heat while at the gaming PC
>> desk. Width is no issue but height may be. It seems my Chieftec tower
>> (WITH OUT FEET INSTALLED) stands at 20.5 inches.
>>
>> I can always remove that desk's keyboard tray, but I like it for
>> neatness and my little kids have it at a good height but would prefer
>> to keep it.
>>
>> Few full tower cases I've looked at:
>>
>> Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case HEIGHT: 21.5 inches
>> Thermaltake Element V VL20001W2Z HEIGHT 21 inches
>>
>> Few mid tower cases I've looked at:
>> Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case HEIGHT:
>> 19.5 inches (It fits!)
>> COOLER MASTER CM690 II Advanced Black Steel body HEIGHT:  20.10 (It fits!)
>>
>> SO, the mid towers fit, the full towers are a tad too tall. Can anyone
>> recommend another good gaming tower I can look at? Or any suggestions
>> regarding the search itself.
>>
>> I have not bought a new tower by itself since 2003.
>>
>> Appreciate any and all of your suggestions as I start putting together
>> the parts of the next machine.
>>
>

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