Scoobydo,
If I dig in by bone pile I could offer you a brand new <old stock> and
only use once, spare for your current P2-333. I bought mine because it
had some special S-Spec #. If interested, I can share critical numbers.
Lopaka speaks true. I personally have had 3 cpu's give up the ghost at
initial power up during build-phase. I call this DOA. As you have never
seen this, you have been very blessed. JMHO, but I think most of us have
large experience with "DOA" kinda stuff.
I do not consider any build I've ever started [complete] until it runs
sans errors for its' 6-month "Infant Mortality" period. Others here have
different schedules for their builds!
I completely agree with your other points. Good share, but, don't be so
quick to give the cpu a pass. Stuff happens here....and bad parts arrive
via the big brown truck!! .... :)
Best,
Duncan
On 05/21/2010 18:41, Scoobydo wrote:
Clearly you have more experience than me but you did say gone bad
because of overheating right? Most components I've had go bad did so for
no apparent reason. They just failed at some point. I've never seen a
CPU do that and even old socket 462 Athlon XP's shut down when over
heated saving themselves from frydom. I base that on the fact that the
last one I worked on (2800+) wouldn't run for more than a couple minutes
in Windows because it was showing 70C in the BIOS. After I cleaned the
gunk off dude's heatsink and applied new TIM. Problem solved and it ran
as good as new. I have an ancient PII 333 MHz Slot style CPU right now
in my apartment that runs as well as the day it was built in 1997. An
old style horizontal HP Vectra and I don't know why I even keep it around..
On Fri, 21 May 2010 17:17:51 -0500, Robert Martin Jr.
<lopa...@pacbell.net> wrote:
I've seen at least 5-6 CPU's go bad. Sometimes it's just the cache
memory and sometimes the processor. Old athlons would fry pretty quick
if the CPU fan goes bad often just within a few minutes. I've probably
built or repaired 500+ systems just as a hobbyist. I used to average
3-4 full systems a week back in the old days. Now that I don't have a
lot of time, I've probably done new boxes 3 this month.
lopaka
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From: Scoobydo <swza...@yahoo.com>
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:59:23 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
If you've had experience of several bad CPU's then you must be a
system builder with hundreds of builds under your belt. I'm just a
hobbyist and have only built 20 or so boxes over the years and I've
never even heard of anyone having a CPU go bad until you said it. Bad
mobo's, PSU's, hardrives, floppies, optical drives, video cards, RAM,
fans etc. I've seen it all with the single exception of the processor.
CPU's are by far the most reliable component of any PC, period. Intel
and AMD deserve great respect for that major accomplishment. Of course
static electricity can kill one pretty easily but that's not "going
bad", that's user error. Somewhere in this area in a land fill is my
original IBM PS/2 486 SX-25 and I'd bet anything that if it were
buried functional with no bent or broken pins it would still run if
socketed in a working box. I really believe that..
On Fri, 21 May 2010 14:09:01 -0500, Gaffer
<14...@castle-computer.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday 21 May 2010 15:02:35 Scoobydo wrote:
I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense
the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume
something else is happening..
On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:24:39 -0500, Thane Sherrington
<th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote:
> I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to
> three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a
> ADA4200IAA5CU in it
> http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%2
>0ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html
>
> When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ
> http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%2
>0ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html
>
> It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this
> CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> T
I've had experience of several bad CPU. Having said that, and in view
of the tests that the OP has done, BIOS settings are the first place to
check. The other is the CPU psu itself. I've seen bad capacitors
cause the psu to shut down on heavy load but supply power just fine to
a lighter load, ie a CPU that draws less power.
The other suggestion I would make is to check the BIOS beep codes to see
what the beep code means.
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