Hi Duncan,

I have a Synology DS412+ NAS with 2-3TB WD Red drives in it.  I do not use
it as a DHCP server.  I have the two NICs in the NAS set to a particular IP
address.  I was not sure if it would use both NICs without link aggregation
and it seems to only actively use the one Nic for I/O.  But it does show the
other as active.  I do enable the windows file service on the NAS, but not
WINS.  I also let it send email alerts, but it has only sent a couple of
emails.

I will be watching to see if this happens again.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:52 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Router/switch issue

Thanks Bobby,
What NAS do you use? I use 4. Just wondering............. :)
Over the past 4yrs, I have learned to never let a Nas run a DHCP server
(router only when necessary), never let a NAS run a WINS server, pay
close attention to letting your Nas send you 'alerts' vial email. 
Any/all of these
can/will screw up your LAN (confuse your router!). My Nas units operate
'dumb' on my LAN.
Just a thought.
Duncan

On 02/01/2014 09:46, Bobby Heid wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions.  I had pretty much tried most of the stuff
below
> in various ways.  What was the last holdout was my NAS box.  I would ping
it
> and I would get 2 host unreachable and 2 of some other message, which was
> weird.  So I got up the nerve to press and hold the button down on the NAS
> (have not had it long) and thankfully, it spun up and blinked for a bit
> while it shutdown.  I then powered the NAS back up and then I could see it
> fine on the network again.
>
> So, for the moment, all is well.
>
> Thanks again,
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:18 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Router/switch issue
>
> I agree.  Could be the nat table filling up on the router, could be the
> router just
> eating it....  I'd either buy a new router or try to isolate more.
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 03:45:49PM -0700, Jamie Furtner wrote:
>> You need to isolate all the various components and see which one could
>> be the cause. I haven't seen a switch just being plugged in cause this
>> kind of issue directly, but it could be indicative of a router that
>> can't handle the load - I have seen consumer routers lock up when
>> multiple PCs send or receive a lot of traffic (like downloading large
>> files or especially BitTorrent traffic).
>>
>> I don't know what you've done, but here's how I'd start: Can you ping
>> other devices on your internal network? Try with both devices attached
>> to the switch, both plugged in directly to the router, and one plugged
>> into the switch and one plugged into the router. Are you sure it's the
>> switch that's the cause and not the router or modem? If you unplug
>> everything from the router and plug in just a PC, can you ping the
>> router internal IP, and out to the internet? Can you plug in a PC
>> directly into the modem and see if that works (if it's an integrated
>> router / modem then it's not possible obviously)?
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>> On 2014-01-30 3:15 PM, Bobby Heid wrote:
>>> Well, I did reset the modem the other night and I get the same behavior.
>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
>>> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby
> Heid
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:59 PM
>>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
>>> Subject: Re: [H] Router/switch issue
>>>
>>> Thanks Duncan.  I will try that if I have not heard of anything that is
> less
>>> work.  :-)
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
>>> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:13 PM
>>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
>>> Subject: Re: [H] Router/switch issue
>>>
>>> Have you done a 'factory reset' of the router?
>>> I agree this is a PITA, but It can fix stuff.
>>> Not sure how a switchcan cause trouble unless it is
>>> now broken. I'll watchNlearn.................... :)
>>> Duncan
>>>
>>> On 01/27/2014 20:02, Bobby Heid wrote:
>>>> Forgot to tell you that this happens even if the pc is directly
> connected
>>> to
>>>> the router.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
>>>> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby
> Heid
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 7:50 PM
>>>> To: 'The Hardware List'
>>>> Subject: [H] Router/switch issue
>>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> I have a Linksys E4200 router and a Trendnet 8-port gigabit switch.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> A month or two ago, I could not get to the internet.  Through trial and
>>>> error, I determined that when the switch was connected to the router, I
>>>> could not access the internet.  SO I ordered me a new switch.  AL has
> been
>>>> fine until today.  My wife told that in the middle of the day today,
> all
>>> of
>>>> a sudden she could not access the internet or the networked printer.
>>> After
>>>> switching out cables and all, I finally figured out that the new switch
> is
>>>> doing the same thing as the other switch did.  The old switch is about
> a
>>>> year old.  The router is a couple of years old.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> I am beginning to wonder if it might be the router that is causing the
>>>> issue.  What do you all think?  Any ideas on how to test everything to
>>> find
>>>> out what is causing the problem?
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Bobby
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> -- 
>> Jamie Furtner <ja...@furtner.ca>



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