I've had a couple older laptops with heat issues (the P4 HP comes to mind)
and the monitoring software (I use speedfan and cpu-z too) didn't always
show much issue. Normally I have 2 ways I'd check if it was heat related. I
have a couple mini fans made for laptops that have adjustable clamps to
hold them over the small fan exhaust ports and a thin retractable usb plug
to power them. On my old P4, if I ran that extra blower fan all the issues
I normally had went away. The other would be to use one of those thin metal
laptop stands that have a couple movable fans so you can adjust them for
where the intake grates are on the laptop.

lopaka

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Bino Gopal <binogo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> So I see I don't have the Creator's Update as I'm still on the Anniversary
> Update at:
>
>         Version 1607 build 14393.1358
>
> Hmm, maybe I should try and get another OEM power brick and start using it
> and see if the problems go away...
>
>
> Heat-wise what would you use to monitor lopaka?  I've got SpeedFan 4.52
> installed and it's not seeming as informative as I remember-just with my
> laptop sitting on my desk, with my house at an ambient 72F, it's showing:
>
> GPU: 0C
> Temp: 1C
> HD0: 35C
> HD1: 47C (going up)
> Temp1: 57C (not sure what that is)
> Temp2: 28C
> Temp3: 30C
> Core 0: 38C
> Core 1: 39C
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> Behalf Of lopaka polena
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 12:40 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
>
> My gut thought would always be power (whether the brick or something
> internal) or heat with a laptop, then windows update issue because there
> have been a few I've seen recently associated with the win 10  creators
> update
>
> lopaka
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Steve Tomporowski <didym...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > What I was thinking was that the power adapter is going bad, and just
> > like a flaky power supply in a desktop, causes  weird things to happen.
> >
> >
> > On 7/6/2017 3:06 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:
> >
> >> I was wondering if it was Win10...and note I had it from 3/15/17 to
> >> 5/11/17 with no issues...and it didn't lockup again until 6/4/17 and
> >> it's been occurring with more frequency...
> >>
> >> But I haven't been prompted for the Creators Update which I heard was
> >> very bad...unless of course it fixed my problem for me...this is so
> >> random and unpredictable, it's very frustrating!
> >>
> >> And note in my case it's definitely a hard, complete lockup and
> >> holding the power button until it reboots is the only way to recover...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Winterlight
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:56 AM
> >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
> >>
> >>
> >> I have had similar experiences with my Lenovo quadcore laptop.
> >> Sometimes it goes to sleep even though I have set it up not to go to
> >> sleep when plugged in. I have to hold the power button to wake bring
> >> it back to usability . I think you have a Win 10 issue.... I have a
> >> lot of issues with Win 10 that I am waiting for fixes to show up.....
> or not.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for
> >>> gaming
> >>> *any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running
> >>> Mad Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the
> >>> fans spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in
> >>> fact, when I had the two issues in quick succession on
> >>> 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I
> >>> thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that
> actually...!
> >>>
> >>> Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that
> >>> Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my
> >>> desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays
> >>> fully charged...are you thinking surges?  It's plugged into a strip...
> >>>
> >>> Any other ideas anyone? :P
> >>>                                                          BINO
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> >>> Behalf Of Joe User
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM
> >>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup
> >>> issues
> >>>
> >>> Heat or Power?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here...
> >>>>
> >>>> Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with
> >>>>
> >>> Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple
> >>> customizations for me-received 3/15/17.  I thought last month that
> >>> it started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power
> >>> button down and shut it off and then power it up.
> >>>
> >>>> It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it
> >>>>
> >>> did this 4x in the same week!  I contacted XoticPC, who said to just
> >>> restore the OS-but I haven't really installed that much and would
> >>> rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run
> >>> into it again.
> >>>
> >>> Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only
> >>>>
> >>> 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened
> >>> only 6 seconds after boot if I'm reading these timestamps
> >>> right...though I didn't notice until the next day, which is when I
> >>> rebooted.
> >>>
> >>>> Anyway, any ideas?  Anyone seen this before?  Any help or
> >>>>
> >>> suggestions much appreciated!
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>                                                  BINO
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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