Well, most of the time these cards are connected to SAS backplanes with a
SFF-8087 to SFF-8087 cable. The consumer user case of directly connecting to
disks (SATA at that) is less common. Not uncommon, but less. :)

Agreed on the potential for having a lot of extra cables, but for me, it's
worth it to bypass the crap cheap consumer SATA HBAs that never work
completely right. I don't run a lot of JBOD anymore, but the systems that do
are using 9211s or its successors--usually alongside SAS expanders.

One final point - this card can run in RAID mode or IT (Initiator/Target)
mode. If it comes in RAID mode, you may need to switch it to IT mode. There
are a number of guides out there, but this one looks quite decent:
https://nguvu.org/freenas/Convert-LSI-HBA-card-to-IT-mode/ 


-----Original Message-----
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of Winterlight
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:55 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] PCIe controller


yeah, I figured that out after I ordered it. I am surprised they don't
include that with the product. What I don't like is you end up with a lot of
unused cables in your case.. I will have to think about it.


At 11:44 AM 11/15/2019, you wrote:
>The card itself does not have any "SATA" ports. It uses a multi-lane 
>mini-SAS connector - SFF-8087. You will need one or more SFF-8087 to 
>SATA breakout cables (4 ports each) to attach disks, which is the 2nd link.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On 
>Behalf Of Winterlight
>Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:18 PM
>To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
>Subject: Re: [H] PCIe controller
>
>
>I ordered the controller but I just realized that the other link is a 
>breakout cable? and not a SATA to  Esata.. is this required or just to 
>increase from 4 to 8 ports?
>
>At 06:31 AM 11/15/2019, you wrote:
> >LSI (then Avago, and now Broadcom) makes good stuff, but it's 
> >generally server grade.
> >
> >If you're just connecting SATA disks, I would actually suggest an 
> >LSI/Avago/Broadcom SAS card. Something like the 9211-8i in 
> >Initiator/Target
> >(IT) mode would let you directly attach 8 more disks, either SATA or 
> >SAS. No eSATA though, so if that's a requirement, you'd need to use 
> >your onboard ports for that. You would need SFF-8087 to SATA forward 
> >breakout cables as well, but those are cheap.
> >
> >https://amzn.com/B002RL8I7M
> >https://amzn.com/B012BPLYJC
> >
> >Do beware that, depending on your system, it could add time to your 
> >POST, and add-in I/O controllers across the board are notorious for 
> >having power-saving issues--specifically, waking from sleep/hibernate.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On 
> >Behalf Of Winterlight
> >Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 9:53 PM
> >To: Hardware Group <hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com>
> >Subject: [H] PCIe controller
> >
> >I am looking to buy a quality  PCIe sata controller. I am not going 
> >to setup RAID so just 6 Gbps is fine. What I am looking for is solid 
> >reliability and Windows 10 compatibility. at lest 4 ports. I have 
> >tried the cheap ones like SYBA  and others and they never work that 
> >well or very reliably. The one I have now hangs at post if anything 
> >is plugged into the Esata port. Istarted looking for a PROMISE but  
> >can't find anything that isn't  designed for a server. I see a brand 
> >called LSI but I am not familiar with it ? Any sugestions?



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