Latest update.

I replaced the M.2 SSD on 11/20 and it appears to have solved the issue with my 
PC locking up.  I have not had it lock up since I replaced the drive.  I know, 
it  could still not be resolved.

But, I want to thank each and everyone of you that tried to help me with my 
issue.  I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me!  And, I ended up 
with an extra HDD.  Who can't use the extra space.  😊

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of lopaka 
polena
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:25 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue

It could be the M.2 SSD. I've only had 1 of those fail before but I'm sure it 
can happen just as easily as failure in SATA SSD (1 have 5 dead ones)

lopaka

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 3:27 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:

> And now, I have been using VideoRedo for about 30 minutes now and the 
> common dialog window opens very fast.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of 
> Bobby Heid
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:37 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
>
> Thanks Lubomir.  Were you able to fix the issue?
>
> So, I replaced my non-boot SSD with a HDD.  At first, all went well.  
> From within VideoRedo, the common dialog windows opened very fast.  
> And, it did not lock up for over 12 hours.  But when I got up this 
> morning, it was locked up.
>
> The only drive I have not disabled/replaced is the M2 boot SSD.  Do 
> you think this may be causing the issue?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of 
> Lubomír Cabla
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 3:31 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
>
> I have the same issue with VLC player.
>
> First time the delay is about 15 seconds, next run is without delay.
>
> After checking in the task manager (Details) I found out the cause:
>
> MsMpEngCP.exe and MsMpEng.exe
>
> They perform full control of the running program but only the first time.
>
> Maybe it will help you.
>
> Lubomir Cabla
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:22 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, it was good info.
> >
> > Latest update.  I swapped the 5TB HDD out for a new 6TB HDD.  No changes.
> > I guess now I have lots more storage.  😊
> >
> > Could this issue be with one of the SSDs?  The Samsung Magician 
> > software says those are ok.
> >
> > Here is an odd thing that I noticed.  Sometimes, when using my video 
> > editing software (VideoReDo TVSuite V6), I noticed when I do 
> > something that causes the app to open up the standard open file 
> > dialog, there can be a delay of between 5 and 20 seconds before the 
> > dialog window opens.  Other times, it opens almost instantly.  This 
> > kind of led me to believe that it may have been the HDD causing my 
> > issues.  I would open a file from the HDD and set its output to the 
> > non-NVME SSD.
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bobby
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf 
> > Of lopaka polena
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:05 PM
> > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
> >
> > Those were good recommendations from Joshua, never seen that info before.
> > The drive I pulled passed every test, but had long pauses during 
> > some of them. I basically swapped everything that could be swapped 
> > during testing except my m2 SSD's, and when I swapped the 4TB 
> > seagate drive all the problems went away. Hopefully you luck out and 
> > find the culprit
> too.
> >
> > lopaka
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 1:39 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Joshua.
> > >
> > > I ran all of those except for the performance monitoring one and 
> > > all said OK.  An interesting note - some of those tests do not 
> > > show the NVME SSD (Samsung 960 Pro SSD).
> > >
> > > I did buy a new 6TB HD to swap out for the 5TB one to see if that 
> > > may
> > help.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On 
> > > Behalf Of Joshua MacCraw
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:27 PM
> > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
> > >
> > > SMART testing comes to mind as well as checking the log for disk 
> > > related events. Found this tip, didn't know win10 did this 
> > > directly
> > > -
> > >
> > > https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-if-hard-drive-failing-sma
> > > rt
> > > -w
> > > indows-10
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 2:24 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks.  Could be on to something there.  I will pursue looking 
> > > > at testing the drive.
> > > >
> > > > The locking up can happen whether it is recording or not.  I was 
> > > > trying to demonstrate that I did not think processes were 
> > > > executing while it appeared locked up.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Bobby
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On 
> > > > Behalf Of lopaka polena
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:53 PM
> > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
> > > >
> > > > Strangely enough my bad drive passed chkdsk multiple times 
> > > > without one fail, so pulling it was a last ditch effect since 
> > > > I'd already swapped video card, RAM and power supply.
> > > >
> > > > lopaka
> > > >
> > > > <
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> > > > >
> > > > Virus-free.
> > > > www.avast.com
> > > > <
> > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link
> > > > &u tm _c ampaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link
> > > > >
> > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:45 PM Beave <619be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Try chkdsk on the drive the recording is going to. Could be an 
> > > > > issue
> > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 1:12 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have had some issues going on with my pc for several 
> > > > > > months
> now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are two issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.      Once every several weeks or so, I get a bluescreen -
> > > > > > IPI_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT.  I can live with this one.  Things 
> > > > > > that I have
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > to fix this do not seem to have helped.
> > > > > > 2.      The big issue is that my PC keeps locking up.  This
> happens
> > > > from
> > > > > > 0-5
> > > > > > times per day.  I may go 3 days without it happening and 
> > > > > > then have it happen
> > > > > > 3 times in one day.  Here are some details:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a.      When it locks up, the HD activity light is doing a very
> > fast,
> > > > > > steady
> > > > > > flash.
> > > > > > b.      There is no warning when it will happen.
> > > > > > c.      It happens whether I am using the PC or not.
> > > > > > d.      Seems to happen more often overnight than during the day.
> > But
> > > > not
> > > > > > always.
> > > > > > e.      When it locks up, I can still move the mouse cursor and
> > move
> > > > > > windows.  I cannot close a window or start another program.
> > > > > > f.      When it locks up when not using PC, sometimes the login
> > > screen
> > > > > > image
> > > > > > will show, sometimes not.
> > > > > > g.      CTL-Alt-Delete does nothing when locked.
> > > > > > h.      PC stays up 24/7.  No sleep or hibernation.
> > > > > > i.      When it locks up, if the system is recording a show
> (from a
> > > > > > networked TV Tuner), the recording stops, so I assume that 
> > > > > > most apps are not still running when it locks up.
> > > > > > j.      If a recording was scheduled while it is locked up,
> nothing
> > > is
> > > > > > created.
> > > > > > k.      To reset, I have to press and hold the power button until
> > the
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > turns off.
> > > > > > l.      Through trial and error, it seems that turning off
> letting
> > > the
> > > > > > monitors going to sleep seems to have lessened the frequency 
> > > > > > of the lock ups.  I am not sure if this was not just a
> coincidence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here are my system specs:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *       Asus X99 Deluxe-II MB
> > > > > > *       Intel i7-6850k CPU (not overclocked)
> > > > > > *       Asus GeForce GTX 1070
> > > > > > *       Corsair water cooler
> > > > > > *       Corsair 32GB RAM
> > > > > > *       Samsung 960 Pro SSD (512GB) - OS
> > > > > > *       Samsung 860 EVO SSD 1TB
> > > > > > *       WD 5TB Black
> > > > > > *       Pioneer Blu Ray drive
> > > > > > *       Dual monitors
> > > > > > *       Corsair HX-850 PSU
> > > > > > *       Corsair K70 LUX keyboard
> > > > > > *       Logitech MX Master mouse
> > > > > > *       Windows 10 Pro - 2004 - 19041.508
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not too keen on a nuke and install.  It would take me 
> > > > > > forever to get everything back the way it was.  But I am not
> > ruling that out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone have any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bobby
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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