I just cloned the M.2.
I did not try to wipe and reinstall on the old one. That would be a long term
task to get everything back the way that I wanted it. But, It may be something
I try in the future.
But, as of today, there have been no lockups.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of Bino
Gopal
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 2:32 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
So when you replaced the M.2 did you clone the install, or start fresh?
Wonder if it's not the physical M.2 SSD, but maybe the install of the OS/files
on it...
Did you try wiping the old M.2 SSD before replacing it?
Curious if it turns out to be a SW or HW issue-I think you isolated it down to
the M.2 clearly, but not sure it's been identified as either SW or HW on the
M.2 as a result, right?
BINO
-----Original Message-----
From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of Bobby
Heid
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:58 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
Latest update.
I replaced the M.2 SSD on 11/20 and it appears to have solved the issue with my
PC locking up. I have not had it lock up since I replaced the drive. I know,
it could still not be resolved.
But, I want to thank each and everyone of you that tried to help me with my
issue. I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me! And, I ended up
with an extra HDD. Who can't use the extra space. 😊
Thanks,
Bobby
-----Original Message-----
From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of lopaka
polena
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:25 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
It could be the M.2 SSD. I've only had 1 of those fail before but I'm sure it
can happen just as easily as failure in SATA SSD (1 have 5 dead ones)
lopaka
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 3:27 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> And now, I have been using VideoRedo for about 30 minutes now and the
> common dialog window opens very fast.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of
> Bobby Heid
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:37 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
>
> Thanks Lubomir. Were you able to fix the issue?
>
> So, I replaced my non-boot SSD with a HDD. At first, all went well.
> From within VideoRedo, the common dialog windows opened very fast.
> And, it did not lock up for over 12 hours. But when I got up this
> morning, it was locked up.
>
> The only drive I have not disabled/replaced is the M2 boot SSD. Do
> you think this may be causing the issue?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of
> LubomÃr Cabla
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 3:31 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
>
> I have the same issue with VLC player.
>
> First time the delay is about 15 seconds, next run is without delay.
>
> After checking in the task manager (Details) I found out the cause:
>
> MsMpEngCP.exe and MsMpEng.exe
>
> They perform full control of the running program but only the first time.
>
> Maybe it will help you.
>
> Lubomir Cabla
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:22 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, it was good info.
> >
> > Latest update. I swapped the 5TB HDD out for a new 6TB HDD. No changes.
> > I guess now I have lots more storage. 😊
> >
> > Could this issue be with one of the SSDs? The Samsung Magician
> > software says those are ok.
> >
> > Here is an odd thing that I noticed. Sometimes, when using my video
> > editing software (VideoReDo TVSuite V6), I noticed when I do
> > something that causes the app to open up the standard open file
> > dialog, there can be a delay of between 5 and 20 seconds before the
> > dialog window opens. Other times, it opens almost instantly. This
> > kind of led me to believe that it may have been the HDD causing my
> > issues. I would open a file from the HDD and set its output to the
> > non-NVME SSD.
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bobby
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf
> > Of lopaka polena
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:05 PM
> > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
> >
> > Those were good recommendations from Joshua, never seen that info before.
> > The drive I pulled passed every test, but had long pauses during
> > some of them. I basically swapped everything that could be swapped
> > during testing except my m2 SSD's, and when I swapped the 4TB
> > seagate drive all the problems went away. Hopefully you luck out and
> > find the culprit
> too.
> >
> > lopaka
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 1:39 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Joshua.
> > >
> > > I ran all of those except for the performance monitoring one and
> > > all said OK. An interesting note - some of those tests do not
> > > show the NVME SSD (Samsung 960 Pro SSD).
> > >
> > > I did buy a new 6TB HD to swap out for the 5TB one to see if that
> > > may
> > help.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On
> > > Behalf Of Joshua MacCraw
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:27 PM
> > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
> > >
> > > SMART testing comes to mind as well as checking the log for disk
> > > related events. Found this tip, didn't know win10 did this
> > > directly
> > > -
> > >
> > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
> > > www.windowscentral.com%2Fhow-check-if-hard-drive-failing-sma&d
> > > ata=04%7C01%7C%7Ce0f61422a9e743f0f8d408d89d4e5ac5%7C84df9e7fe9f640
> > > afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637432307139333796%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG
> > > Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6
> > > Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ZGLOgYHf9buOJQ51cduP%2FZvlp1gZMSpw8n77CgFI
> > > 9w4%3D&reserved=0
> > > rt
> > > -w
> > > indows-10
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 2:24 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks. Could be on to something there. I will pursue looking
> > > > at testing the drive.
> > > >
> > > > The locking up can happen whether it is recording or not. I was
> > > > trying to demonstrate that I did not think processes were
> > > > executing while it appeared locked up.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Bobby
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On
> > > > Behalf Of lopaka polena
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:53 PM
> > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue
> > > >
> > > > Strangely enough my bad drive passed chkdsk multiple times
> > > > without one fail, so pulling it was a last ditch effect since
> > > > I'd already swapped video card, RAM and power supply.
> > > >
> > > > lopaka
> > > >
> > > > <
> > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%
> > > > 2Fwww.avast.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3D
> > > > link&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ce0f61422a9e743f0f8d408d89d4e5ac5%7C84
> > > > df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637432307139333796%7CUn
> > > > known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
> > > > Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9yof7Utlls55U5YFApcu2a8o
> > > > MliZ2N10OE1km0STmmg%3D&reserved=0
> > > > &u tm _c ampaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon
> > > > >
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> > > > Fwww.avast.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ce0f61422a9e743f0f8d408d8
> > > > 9d4e5ac5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6374323071
> > > > 39343796%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l
> > > > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=j6pFvQOQOcZ
> > > > x3iYRj%2FLvJXOKiPQUfl03%2Fr8PSAbQigw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > <
> > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%
> > > > 2Fwww.avast.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3D
> > > > link&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ce0f61422a9e743f0f8d408d89d4e5ac5%7C84
> > > > df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637432307139343796%7CUn
> > > > known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
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> > > > &u tm _c ampaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link
> > > > >
> > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:45 PM Beave <619be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Try chkdsk on the drive the recording is going to. Could be an
> > > > > issue
> > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 1:12 PM Bobby Heid <bh...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have had some issues going on with my pc for several
> > > > > > months
> now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are two issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Once every several weeks or so, I get a bluescreen -
> > > > > > IPI_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT. I can live with this one. Things
> > > > > > that I have
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > to fix this do not seem to have helped.
> > > > > > 2. The big issue is that my PC keeps locking up. This
> happens
> > > > from
> > > > > > 0-5
> > > > > > times per day. I may go 3 days without it happening and
> > > > > > then have it happen
> > > > > > 3 times in one day. Here are some details:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a. When it locks up, the HD activity light is doing a very
> > fast,
> > > > > > steady
> > > > > > flash.
> > > > > > b. There is no warning when it will happen.
> > > > > > c. It happens whether I am using the PC or not.
> > > > > > d. Seems to happen more often overnight than during the day.
> > But
> > > > not
> > > > > > always.
> > > > > > e. When it locks up, I can still move the mouse cursor and
> > move
> > > > > > windows. I cannot close a window or start another program.
> > > > > > f. When it locks up when not using PC, sometimes the login
> > > screen
> > > > > > image
> > > > > > will show, sometimes not.
> > > > > > g. CTL-Alt-Delete does nothing when locked.
> > > > > > h. PC stays up 24/7. No sleep or hibernation.
> > > > > > i. When it locks up, if the system is recording a show
> (from a
> > > > > > networked TV Tuner), the recording stops, so I assume that
> > > > > > most apps are not still running when it locks up.
> > > > > > j. If a recording was scheduled while it is locked up,
> nothing
> > > is
> > > > > > created.
> > > > > > k. To reset, I have to press and hold the power button until
> > the
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > turns off.
> > > > > > l. Through trial and error, it seems that turning off
> letting
> > > the
> > > > > > monitors going to sleep seems to have lessened the frequency
> > > > > > of the lock ups. I am not sure if this was not just a
> coincidence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here are my system specs:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Asus X99 Deluxe-II MB
> > > > > > * Intel i7-6850k CPU (not overclocked)
> > > > > > * Asus GeForce GTX 1070
> > > > > > * Corsair water cooler
> > > > > > * Corsair 32GB RAM
> > > > > > * Samsung 960 Pro SSD (512GB) - OS
> > > > > > * Samsung 860 EVO SSD 1TB
> > > > > > * WD 5TB Black
> > > > > > * Pioneer Blu Ray drive
> > > > > > * Dual monitors
> > > > > > * Corsair HX-850 PSU
> > > > > > * Corsair K70 LUX keyboard
> > > > > > * Logitech MX Master mouse
> > > > > > * Windows 10 Pro - 2004 - 19041.508
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not too keen on a nuke and install. It would take me
> > > > > > forever to get everything back the way it was. But I am not
> > ruling that out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone have any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bobby
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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