Well, so I have another question, if our concern is just whether the msvcr71.dll can be redistributable _independently_, why we need to download it rather than distributing it with Harmony?

Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:


Tim Ellison wrote:
The Microsoft VisualStudio redist.txt allows it to be redistributed,

"The following list reflects all files available with Microsoft Visual
Studio for redistribution;...
...
msvcr71.dll
...
"

and the MSDN website [1] says:

"An application should use and redistribute msvcr71.dll, and it should
avoid placing a copy or using an existing copy of msvcr71.dll in the
system directory. Instead, the application should keep a copy of
msvcr71.dll in its application directory with the program executable."

So is the question, can _anyone_ (i.e. "dlldump.com") redistribute this
file?

Or to make the question more precise, can anyone redistribute this file _independent_ of the application? That's my concern.

geir


[1]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vclib/html/_crt_c_run.2d.time_libraries.asp

Regards,
Tim

Paulex Yang wrote:
I'm not a lawyer, but as to my knowledge, many commercial as well as
open source software distribution includes msvcr71.dll, say, wincvs,
ImageMagick, VMWare, OpenOffice, etc(just a few cases).

And the vctoolkit2003's EULA says:
"2.2 Redistributable Code-General. Microsoft grants you a nonexclusive,
royalty-free right to reproduce and distribute the object code form of
any portion of the Software listed in REDIST.TXT ("Redistributable
Code"). For general redistribution requirements for Redistributable
Code, see Section3.1, below. "

but its redist.txt doesn't list any files! it says:

"There are no redistributable files (i.e., dll's/cab's, etc.) included
with the Visual C++ Toolkit 2003. Object library files included with the
Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 (e.g. the C Runtime Library static libraries
designated with the suffix ".lib") will be automatically linked to your
program when they are compiled by the Visual C++ compiler and linker.
Inclusion of these static libraries as compiled into your program is
acceptable; you may not, however, redistribute the static libraries
standalone - on their own."

While MSDN also said files in redist.txt is redistributable, the
VS.net's redist.txt DOES include msvcr71.dll. Does it mean only
VisualStudio user can redistribute it?

[1]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vccore/html/vcconalistofredistributablefiles.asp


Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
This gives me the heebie-jeebies. What is the license for that dll?
Are people allowed to re-distribute independent of an app that uses it?

Where else can people get it?

Tim Ellison wrote:
Ok, if somebody prefers a different source send a note.

Regards,
Tim

Mark Hindess wrote:
I failed to find it on microsoft.com too. Though I'd be happy to be
corrected.

It was the first hit on the google search I did - or the first that
didn't use javascript and popups to serve the download. It's trivial
to change if you find a better source.

I was careful to make sure the file it served had the md5sum of the
file in svn. I also checked the sha1sum just to be a little more
confident of its validity.

Regards,
-Mark.

On 3/30/06, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is "www.dlldump.com" our chosen supplier? I've never heard of them.
I browsed around and didn't see it anywhere on the microsoft.com
website. I know we are checking the MD5 to ensure we get the right
thing; any idea about reliability etc.

Regards,
Tim


Mark Hindess (JIRA) wrote:
download msvcr71.dll rather than distributing it
------------------------------------------------

Key: HARMONY-282
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-282
Project: Harmony
Type: Improvement
Components: Classlib
Reporter: Mark Hindess
Priority: Trivial


Tim suggested we should download the msvcr71.dll rather than
distributing it.


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IBM Java technology centre, UK.

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IBM Java Technology Centre, UK.







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Paulex Yang
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IBM


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