Vladimir Gorr wrote:
Mikhail,

I also thought about this scenario. However, if any TCK tests will fail due
to this reason
we cannot certify our product. Nobody will talk about the invalidity of TCK.
Most likely we will update our sources.

1) I hadn't thought about this before, but it seems much cleaner to throw A (rather than B extends A) if the spec says to throw A.

2) You can challenge TCK tests and have them eliminated. We've done it for J2EE and other specs. I believe that we're going to be in for quite a bit of it because for all practical purposes, we'll be the first use of the TCK on an independent implementation of Java SE.

geir



Thanks,
Vladimir.

On 4/24/06, Mikhail Loenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There is nothing about TCK here: if the spec requires to throw A
and we throw B that extends A then we follow the spec

And if there is a TCK test that verifies that we throw A and only A
then the test is invalid and we will not have to pass it

Sometimes it is an easy fix to throw A rather then B.

But there could be two RI methods - one throwing A and another one
throwing B
such that in our implementation they both refer to some third method.

In this case if we throw B in that 3rd method - then we conform the spec,
we won't break existing apps and it might cause design weakening
if we choose to go coping how RI works.

So if the fix is easy then I'd agree to what folks say here, but in
general case
I'd not set the rule to follow RI this way.

Thanks,
Mikhail

2006/4/24, Vladimir Gorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
The answer to this question (in my opinion) depends on how TCK processes
similar situations.
If we want to successfully perform this suite on Harmony we should be
compatible with RI.
For certain there are a lot of tests into TCK will fail due to this
reason
and we should be ready for this.

Thanks,
Vladimir.

On 4/24/06, Mikhail Loenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Look at HARMONY-387.

Example:
1) java.io.ByteArrayOutputStream.write(byte[] b , int off, int len):
Harmony throws ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException when off<0 or/and len
<0, while RI throws IndexOutOfBoundsException.
Specification mentions neither ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException nor
IndexOutOfBoundsException.


Actually ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException is a sub class of
IndexOutOfBoundsException.

So the statement "both Harmony and RI throw IndexOutOfBoundsException"
is
true.

But do we have to throw exactly those exceptions that are thrown by
RI?

Can we throw
o.a.h.VMRisenNPE that extends NullPointerException?

What if they throw kind of
sun.internal.SunFavoriteSubClassOfNullPointerException ?

Thanks,
Mikhail

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