Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > Nathan Beyer wrote: >> I may be a bit naïve in regards to such things, but would it be >> possible to >> create our own stripped down compiler package? My thought is that we >> could >> just checkout the appropriate JDT code from Eclipse's CVS server, >> build only >> the classes necessary and create a wee JAR. >> > > I'd prefer not if we don't have to,
I'd also prefer not to where we can download directly, but in this case it appears that we cannot. > because we don't create > distributions of software unless we host the source and can account for > it's provenance. That's not my understanding, and is certainly not the case at present (ICU, ZLib, FDLibm, etc.) Cliff's draft policy on third-party code [1] specifically allows redistributing binary versions of EPL code in Apache products, with certain requirements such that we provide clear references to that code's source. [1] http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html >> I'm guessing that the big concern would be legal ramifications, but >> I'm not >> familiar enough with the various licenses to know. > > Yep > >> >> Obviously this puts Harmony in the business of managing more stuff, >> but it >> might help things out in the short-term. Perhaps such an example could be >> posted to Eclipse with a bug to help the cause. > > I'm hoping they just can distribute the jars we (and others) need > separately. That would be good, but where they cannot/will not then I think we can redistribute in product. Regards, Tim >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:32 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [prayer] to the Eclipse Foundation >>> >>> >>> >>> Tim Ellison wrote: >>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >>>>> There was actually zero sarcasm intended there. I was just hoping to >>>>> get your attention. I've used this format effectively w/ the JCP as >>>>> well. :) >>>>> >>>>> The only comment that I thought might get taken the wrong way was the >>>>> "bloat" comment, but from the perspective of being interested in >>> getting >>>>> the java compiler and getting in a 100MB download.... >>>> Getting the compiler stand-alone would be the ideal, but as Mark points >>>> out, if it doesn't work out you can also get the same thing via >>>> Eclipse's 19Mb JDT binary download. >>> That certainly is an improvement... >>> >>> geir >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Tim >>>> >>>>> So - can we get the Java compiler hosted officially somewhere? Right >>>>> now, for the harmony classlib, we ask people to dig it out of the >>>>> eclipse distro, and the contributed build script for the new VM from >>>>> Intel does that same thing automatically. Lots of extra bits floating >>>>> through the internets... >>>>> >>>>> I think it would also assist adoption - it would make it easier for >>>>> other projects to use it via ant or maven jar fetches. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, if it is already that way somewhere, and I'm just clueless, >>> I >>>>> deserve whatever drubbing you can aim my way :) >>>>> >>>>> thx >>>>> >>>>> geir >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mike Milinkovich wrote: >>>>>> I've tried parsing the prayer a few times to delete the sarcasm and >>>>>> understand exactly what you're asking for, but as with most prayers, >>> the >>>>>> language appears to be imprecise. >>>>>> >>>>>> What *exactly* is it that you're looking for? >>>>>> Mike Milinkovich >>>>>> Executive Director, >>>>>> Eclipse Foundation, Inc. >>>>>> Office: 613-224-9461 x228 >>>>>> Cell: 613-220-3223 >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> blog: http://milinkovich.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 4, 2006 >>>>>>> 7:07 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [prayer] to the Eclipse Foundation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seriously, anyone have any contacts there? (Church of Eclipse, not >>>>>>> billygraham...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike, are you around? :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> geir >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim Ellison wrote: >>>>>>>> Dear Harmony Project, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think you are on the wrong mailing list, please try >>>>>>>> www.billygraham.org (or whatever your personal preference). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >>>>>>>>> Oh Mighty Eclipse Foundation, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thou art soest bountiful, we praise your munificence, >>>>>>> especially that >>>>>>>>> which compiles the java. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We beseech thee, in thy mercy, to offer to your lowly >>>>>>> servants that >>>>>>>>> which we covet alone in it's beauty, without thy holy bloat, for >>>>>>>>> while that which wraps the compiler of java nourishes >>>>>>> those without >>>>>>>>> the divine IDEA, we do not deserveth such goodness, nor have the >>>>>>>>> richness of time or heavenly bandwidth. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We ask this humbly, and with averted gaze as befitting our >>>>>>>>> station. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Harmony Project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: harmony-dev- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: harmony-dev- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Java technology centre, UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
