Alexei Zakharov wrote:
> George,
>
> I remember my past experience with BeanShell - I was trying to create
> the custom BeanShell task for ant 1.6.1. I can't say I haven't
> succeeded. But I remember this as a rather unpleasant experience. At
> that time BeanShell appeared to me as a not very well tested
> framework. Please don't throw rocks on me now, I am just talking about
> my old impressions. Probably BeanShell has become better since then.
>
Hi Alexei,
No rocks. I promise :-)
> But... Do we really need BS here? Why can't we manage everything from
> build.xml without extra testng.xml files? I mean something like this:
>
> <!-- determines the OS -->
> <condition property="platform" value="win.IA32">
> <os family="Windows"/>
> </condition>
> <condition property="platform" value="linux.IA32">
> <and>
> <os name="linux"/>
> <os family="unix"/>
> </and>
> </condition>
>
> <property name="groups.included" value="os.any, os.${platform}"/>
> <property name="groups.excluded" value="state.broken,
> state.broken.${platform}"/>
>
> <target name="run" description="Run tests">
> <taskdef name="testng" classname="org.testng.TestNGAntTask"
> classpath="${jdk15.testng.jar}"/>
> <testng classpathref="run.cp"
> outputdir="${testng.report.dir}"
> groups="${groups.included}"
> excludedGroups="${groups.excluded}">
> <classfileset dir="." includes="**/*.class"/>
> </testng>
> </target>
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Thanks,
Yes, that makes sense and if it gives the degree of control that we need
then I would be all for it. The simpler the better.
It looks like you are using an "os.any" group for those test methods
(the majority) which may be run anywhere. That's a different approach to
what I have been doing. I have been thinking more along the lines of
avoiding the creation of groups that cover the majority of tests and
trying to focus on groups that identify those "edge cases" like
platform-specific, temporarily broken, temporarily broken on platform
"os.blah" etc. This means my tests that are "run anywhere" and are
"public api" type (as opposed to being specific to the Harmony
implementation) are just annotated with "@Test". I guess that the
equivalent in your scheme would be annotated as "@Test(groups =
{"os.any", "type.api"})" ?
If I have inferred correct from your Ant fragment then I think it means
requiring more information on the annotations. I'm not throwing rocks at
that idea (remember my promise ?), just trying to draw out the
differences in our approaches. When I get a chance I will try and
explore your idea further.
I really appreciate your input here.
Best regards,
George
>
> 2006/7/20, George Harley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Richard Liang wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > George Harley wrote:
>> >> Richard Liang wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> George Harley wrote:
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If annotations were to be used to help us categorise tests in
order
>> >>>> to simplify the definition of test configurations - what's
included
>> >>>> and excluded etc - then a core set of annotations would need
to be
>> >>>> agreed by the project. Consider the possibilities that the
TestNG
>> >>>> "@Test" annotation offers us in this respect.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> First, if a test method was identified as being broken and
needed
>> >>>> to be excluded from all test runs while awaiting
investigation then
>> >>>> it would be a simple matter of setting its enabled field like
this:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> @Test(enabled=false)
>> >>>> public void myTest() {
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> }
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Temporarily disabling a test method in this way means that it
can
>> >>>> be left in its original class and we do not have to refer to
it in
>> >>>> any suite configuration (e.g. in the suite xml file).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If a test method was identified as being broken on a specific
>> >>>> platform then we could make use of the groups field of the
"@Test"
>> >>>> type by making the method a member of a group that identifies
its
>> >>>> predicament. Something like this:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> @Test(groups={"state.broken.win.IA32"})
>> >>>> public void myOtherTest() {
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> }
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The configuration for running tests on Windows would then
>> >>>> specifically exclude any test method (or class) that was a
member
>> >>>> of that group.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Making a test method or type a member of a well-known group
>> >>>> (well-known in the sense that the name and meaning has been
agreed
>> >>>> within the project) is essentially adding some descriptive
>> >>>> attributes to the test. Like adjectives (the groups) and
nouns (the
>> >>>> tests) in the English language. To take another example, if
there
>> >>>> was a test class that contained methods only intended to be
run on
>> >>>> Windows and that were all specific to Harmony (i.e. not API
tests)
>> >>>> then one could envisage the following kind of annotation:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> @Test(groups={"type.impl", "os.win.IA32"})
>> >>>> public class MyTestClass {
>> >>>>
>> >>>> public void testOne() {
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> }
>> >>>>
>> >>>> public void testTwo() {
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> }
>> >>>>
>> >>>> @Test(enabled=false)
>> >>>> public void brokenTest() {
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> }
>> >>>> }
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here the annotation on MyTestClass applies to all of its test
>> methods.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So what are the well-known TestNG groups that we could define
for
>> >>>> use inside Harmony ? Here are some of my initial thoughts:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> * type.impl -- tests that are specific to Harmony
>> >>>>
>> >>>> * state.broken.<platform id> -- tests bust on a specific
platform
>> >>>>
>> >>>> * state.broken -- tests broken on every platform but we want to
>> >>>> decide whether or not to run from our suite configuration
>> >>>>
>> >>>> * os.<platform id> -- tests that are to be run only on the
>> >>>> specified platform (a test could be member of more than one of
>> these)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What does everyone else think ? Does such a scheme sound
>> reasonable ?
>> >>>>
>> >>> Just one question: What's the default test annotation? I mean the
>> >>> successful api tests which will be run on every platform. Thanks
>> a lot.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Richard
>> >>
>> >> Hi Richard,
>> >>
>> >> I think that just the basic @Test annotation on its own will
suffice.
>> >> Any better suggestions are welcome.
>> >>
>> > Just thinking about how to filter out the target test groups :-)
>> >
>> > I tried to use the following groups to define the win.IA32 API
tests,
>> > but it seems that the tests with the default annotation @Test
cannot
>> > be selected. Do I miss anything? Thanks a lot.
>> >
>> > <groups>
>> > <run>
>> > <include name=".*" />
>> > <include name="os.win.IA32" />
>> > <exclude name="type.impl" />
>> > <exclude name="state.broken" />
>> > <exclude name="state.broken.win.IA32" />
>> > <exclude name="os.linux.IA32" />
>> > </run>
>> > </groups>
>> >
>> > The groups I defined:
>> > @Test
>> > @Test(groups={"os.win.IA32"})
>> > @Test(groups={"os.win.IA32", "state.broken.win.IA32"})
>> > @Test(groups={"type.impl"})
>> > @Test(groups={"state.broken"})
>> > @Test(groups={"os.linux.IA32"})
>> > @Test(groups={"state.broken.linux.IA32"})
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Richard.
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Infuriating isn't it ?
>>
>> The approach I have adopted so far is to aim for a single testng.xml
>> file per module that could be used for all platforms that we run
tests
>> on. The thought of multiple testng.xml files for each module, with
each
>> XML file including platform-specific data duplicated across the files
>> (save for a few platform identifiers) seemed less than optimal.
>>
>> So how do we arrive at this single testng.xml file with awareness
of its
>> runtime platform ? And how can that knowledge be applied in the
file to
>> filter just the particular test groups that we want ? Well, the
approach
>> that seems to work best for me so far is to use the make use of some
>> BeanShell script in which we can detect the platform id as a system
>> property and then use that inside some pretty straightforward
>> Java/BeanShell code to select precisely the groups we want to run
in a
>> particular test.
>>
>> For example, in the following Ant fragment we use the testng task to
>> launch the tests pointing at a specific testng.xml file
>> (testng-with-beanshell.xml) and also setting the platform
identifier as
>> a system property hy.platform. In real life the value used to set the
>> notional "hy.platform" property would be some agreed Ant property
using
>> a project-wide means of agreeing platform identities ...
>>
>>
>> <testng jvm="${test.jre.home}/bin/java">
>> <classpath location="${test.build.dir}"/>
>> <jvmarg value="-showversion" />
>> <jvmarg value="-Dhy.platform=win.IA32"/>
>>
>> <xmlfileset dir="${basedir}"
>> includes="testng-with-beanshell.xml"/>
>> <classfileset dir="${test.build.dir}"
>> includes="**/*Test.class" />
>> </testng>
>>
>>
>> The testng-with-beanshell.xml file contains a suite with several
tests
>> defined. Let's consider just the test that will run all of the API
tests
>> specific to our current platform (I think that this is what you
want to
>> run in your setup)...
>>
>>
>> <test name="current.platform.api">
>> <method-selectors>
>> <method-selector>
>> <script language="beanshell"><![CDATA[
>> import apples.*;
>>
>> platform = System.getProperty("hy.platform", "null");
>> if (platform.equals("null")) {
>> System.out.println("Property hy.platform not set");
>> return false;
>> }
>>
>> if ( !groups.containsKey("type.impl") &&
>> TestUtils.matchesAnyGroup(testngMethod.getGroups(),
>> "os." + TestUtils.getPlatform()) &&
>> !groups.containsKey("state.broken") &&
>> !groups.containsKey("state.broken." + platform) ) {
>> return true;
>> }
>> return false;
>>
>> ]]></script>
>> </method-selector>
>> </method-selectors>
>> <packages>
>> <package name="foo.bar"/>
>> </packages>
>>
>> </test>
>>
>>
>> There is some simple experimental code that I have omitted here (my
>> apples.TestUtils class) that does some simple pattern matching stuff.
>> Originally the code in the static "matchesAnyGroup" method was just
>> defined in the CDATA script block as a BeanShell function. I just
moved
>> it into a separate Java class because I saw some reuse opportunity.
>> Likewise the code to set the "platform" string variable could be
split
>> out into a static TestUtils method called getPlatform().
>>
>> Anyway, the point I guess that I am trying to make here is that it is
>> possible in TestNG to select the methods to test dynamically using a
>> little bit of scripting that (a) gives us a lot more power than the
>> include/exclude technique and (b) will work the same across every
>> platform we test on. Because BeanShell allows us to instantiate
and use
>> Java objects of any type on the classpath then the possibility of
using
>> more than just group membership to decide on tests to run becomes
>> available to us. Please refer to the TestNG documentation for more on
>> the capabilities of BeanShell and the TestNG API. I had never
heard of
>> it before never mind used it but still managed to get stuff
working in a
>> relatively short space of time.
>>
>> I hope this helps. Maybe I need to write a page on the wiki or
>> something ?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> George
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> Thanks for reading this far.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best regards,
>> >>>> George
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> George Harley wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Just seen Tim's note on test support classes and it really
caught
>> >>>>> my attention as I have been mulling over this issue for a
little
>> >>>>> while now. I think that it is a good time for us to return
to the
>> >>>>> topic of class library test layouts.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The current proposal [1] sets out to segment our different
types
>> >>>>> of test by placing them in different file locations. After
looking
>> >>>>> at the recent changes to the LUNI module tests (where the
layout
>> >>>>> guidelines were applied) I have a real concern that there are
>> >>>>> serious problems with this approach. We have started down a
track
>> >>>>> of just continually growing the number of test source
folders as
>> >>>>> new categories of test are identified and IMHO that is going to
>> >>>>> bring complexity and maintenance issues with these tests.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Consider the dimensions of tests that we have ...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> API
>> >>>>> Harmony-specific
>> >>>>> Platform-specific
>> >>>>> Run on classpath
>> >>>>> Run on bootclasspath
>> >>>>> Behaves different between Harmony and RI
>> >>>>> Stress
>> >>>>> ...and so on...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If you weigh up all of the different possible permutations and
>> >>>>> then consider that the above list is highly likely to be
extended
>> >>>>> as things progress it is obvious that we are eventually heading
>> >>>>> for large amounts of related test code scattered or possibly
>> >>>>> duplicated across numerous "hard wired" source directories. How
>> >>>>> maintainable is that going to be ?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If we want to run different tests in different
configurations then
>> >>>>> IMHO we need to be thinking a whole lot smarter. We need to be
>> >>>>> thinking about keeping tests for specific areas of
functionality
>> >>>>> together (thus easing maintenance); we need something quick and
>> >>>>> simple to re-configure if necessary (pushing whole
directories of
>> >>>>> files around the place does not seem a particularly lightweight
>> >>>>> approach); and something that is not going to potentially
mess up
>> >>>>> contributed patches when the file they patch is found to
have been
>> >>>>> recently pushed from source folder A to B.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> To connect into another recent thread, there have been some
posts
>> >>>>> lately about handling some test methods that fail on Harmony
and
>> >>>>> have meant that entire test case classes have been excluded
from
>> >>>>> our test runs. I have also been noticing some API test methods
>> >>>>> that pass fine on Harmony but fail when run against the RI. Are
>> >>>>> the different behaviours down to errors in the Harmony
>> >>>>> implementation ? An error in the RI implementation ? A bug
in the
>> >>>>> RI Javadoc ? Only after some investigation has been carried
out do
>> >>>>> we know for sure. That takes time. What do we do with the test
>> >>>>> methods in the meantime ? Do we push them round the file system
>> >>>>> into yet another new source folder ? IMHO we need a testing
>> >>>>> strategy that enables such "problem" methods to be tracked
easily
>> >>>>> without disruption to the rest of the other tests.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> A couple of weeks ago I mentioned that the TestNG framework [2]
>> >>>>> seemed like a reasonably good way of allowing us to both group
>> >>>>> together different kinds of tests and permit the exclusion of
>> >>>>> individual tests/groups of tests [3]. I would like to strongly
>> >>>>> propose that we consider using TestNG as a means of
providing the
>> >>>>> different test configurations required by Harmony. Using a
>> >>>>> combination of annotations and XML to capture the kinds of
>> >>>>> sophisticated test configurations that people need, and that
>> >>>>> allows us to specify down to the individual method, has got
to be
>> >>>>> more scalable and flexible than where we are headed now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks for reading this far.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best regards,
>> >>>>> George
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1]
>> >>>>>
>>
http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/testing.html
>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [2] http://testng.org
>> >>>>> [3]
>> >>>>>
>>
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200606.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
>
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