in other words, people were meant to subscribe either
to haskell or to haskell+haskell-cafe, and posting to
haskell was meant to be a flag able to raise a topic
briefly over the general din in haskell-cafe.
Do people think that is working?
i don't think it is working anymore. haskell-cafe works
(mostly;-), haskell sometimes works, sometimes seems a
distinction without a difference, and more and more often
causes confusion (where to post? who is on what list?)
Also, I think HWN now does a good job of bringing the
current issues to the haskell@ readers.
yes, if HWN was more, well, weekly,-) it would nicely cover
that job.
there is the secondary issue that we'd actually want to alert the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] readers to discussions early, so that it doesn't
take a week before they join a discussion on what to do with
mailing lists!-)
but i have the feeling that those who are likely to join discussions
have taken to at least browsing haskell-cafe as well?
(note that the second is slightly misleading: *everything*
is off-topic on haskell@ after a few exchanges, i think;
note also that crossposting was explicitly ruled out)
I don't think cross-posting works well on the lists at all; unless
people do some magic they get 2 copies of all the mails, and you can end
up with some subthreads only on one list and some only on another.
one might exaggerate the split intent as: any message to
haskell@ should have its reply-to set to haskell-cafe. but
i agree, neither split threads nor crossposts are nice, but
they are a reality.
the current welcome message discourages crossposts.
nevertheless, they are used, for instance, for HWN, and
for this present thread, because we are no longer sure of
the original assertions, as expressed in the original split:
Welcome to the Haskell Cafe
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/haskell-1990-2006/msg07680.html
we either need to guarantee that haskell is a sublist of
haskell-cafe (so crossposts are never needed, because
noone is subscribed to cafe only, and any accidental
crossposts could be filtered from cafe; all threads are
archived in full in the cafe archive, no matter which parts
appeared where), or we have to find another way to
make this list combination work.
personally, i could live with (as proposed)
haskell-cafe + hwn + haskell-announce + hcar
but i wanted to point out that the post-split haskell@
was not meant to be limited to announcements. it is
just that 'low traffic, stay-in-touch-only' has proven
to be too vague a charter to work well. which is why
we're having this thread, i believe?-)
claus
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